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    heres mine. 97'
    Last edited by xcr440; 01-04-2017 at 09:21 AM.
    2003 Pro x 700
    almond/blue,10-66, black/red,team 719, T-flow, 440 mains

    1997 XCF 440

    1997 XCR440
    HSP Black,S51HR,HSP Orange,52/34,19/39,380 main,17.5 PAJ's,ufo's,T-flow below shelf,159 P-4 nozzles, stock 6DH7 needle #2 pos.

    1998 Indy 500

    1987 Sport 340

    Past toys;
    1998 Explorer|1999 F-250 SD V10 | 1997 F-150 SC 5.4L | 1995 F-150 RC 5.0L | 1980 F-150 RC 5.0L | 1980 Chevy CK 1500 350ci 3.4 ton lifted springs |

    1998 XC 700 | 1996 ULTRA SP | 1995 XCR 600 | 1991 RXL | 1992 XCR 440 | 1990 INDY 400 | 1987 INDY 400 | 1987 INDY TRAIL |

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    97's had the regular indy hood intake as mentioned, they had a different air box lid and CDI mounting, also had a different coolant tank and filler neck and I have seen some 97's with the regular Polaris brake, not the Magura. Then of course there is the whole engine update kit for the 97's because they had durability issues, guy on ebay was selling NOS update kits for a decent price IIRC. There are actually different revisions of VES valves but not sure when the change was implemented. I believe the rest of the VES parts are the same though, i.e. bellows, gaskets, piston etc...
    '98 XCR 440 "Red Rocket"

    370 Mains W/TempaFlow Airbox Vented Under Shelf 1/8 Turn CCW
    17.5 Pilots W/UFO's & Torque Flows
    P-4 286 Needle Jet W/6DH7 Needles #2 Position W/1 .020 EGT Shim
    S53Red Weights, Polaris Almond/Gold W/911 Response Cover
    TEAM TSS98 66-44-.46, Red/Blue
    22/41 Gearing
    Camoplast Ice Ripper
    Kimpex Arrow Skis W/Woodys Carbides
    Koso EGT/H20/RPM Digital Gauge

    '16 Switchback Pro-S 800 Snow Check

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    cdi mounting on a 97 was on the air box same as the 98'. I do beleive early on they may have mounted it to the cylinder but not 100%. Alot of guys hated the magura brake handle, so went back to normal polaris brake. Thats what I did. I hated the scratching of the hood and the constant rattle. I have 3 sets of ves valves. original ones and "rev 1" other 2 sets say "rev II" not sure what differnce is but they fit and look identical.
    2003 Pro x 700
    almond/blue,10-66, black/red,team 719, T-flow, 440 mains

    1997 XCF 440

    1997 XCR440
    HSP Black,S51HR,HSP Orange,52/34,19/39,380 main,17.5 PAJ's,ufo's,T-flow below shelf,159 P-4 nozzles, stock 6DH7 needle #2 pos.

    1998 Indy 500

    1987 Sport 340

    Past toys;
    1998 Explorer|1999 F-250 SD V10 | 1997 F-150 SC 5.4L | 1995 F-150 RC 5.0L | 1980 F-150 RC 5.0L | 1980 Chevy CK 1500 350ci 3.4 ton lifted springs |

    1998 XC 700 | 1996 ULTRA SP | 1995 XCR 600 | 1991 RXL | 1992 XCR 440 | 1990 INDY 400 | 1987 INDY 400 | 1987 INDY TRAIL |

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    Funny I bought a 97 airbox and it didn't have the recessed mount on the top for the CDI? I saw the 97 sled it came from too, weird. I only wanted the bottom shelf anyways because I was poking holes for the T flow. The handle rattle on the Magura is because the piston is sticking. Flush brake fluid and clean that sucker out and problem solved. The long handle was pretty dumb though as it would hit the windshield depending on the angle you had it mounted.

    As far as the VES goes, the earlier revision I noticed had a different cutout angle on the valve, didn't look like a big difference bit it was noticeable on mine. Are we an astute bunch or what?
    '98 XCR 440 "Red Rocket"

    370 Mains W/TempaFlow Airbox Vented Under Shelf 1/8 Turn CCW
    17.5 Pilots W/UFO's & Torque Flows
    P-4 286 Needle Jet W/6DH7 Needles #2 Position W/1 .020 EGT Shim
    S53Red Weights, Polaris Almond/Gold W/911 Response Cover
    TEAM TSS98 66-44-.46, Red/Blue
    22/41 Gearing
    Camoplast Ice Ripper
    Kimpex Arrow Skis W/Woodys Carbides
    Koso EGT/H20/RPM Digital Gauge

    '16 Switchback Pro-S 800 Snow Check

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianXCR View Post
    You should be able to find one without too much trouble, even nearly 20 years later the trails are still polluted with those old girls, lol. What's wrong with yours that it needs complete replacement?
    There is a rather large piece broken off. I didn't catch it at the time when I bought it unfortunately
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMarshy View Post
    Where are you located Boom-Stick?
    I am located in Saskatchewan, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom-Stick View Post
    I am located in Saskatchewan, Canada
    Boom Stick - I have a 98 Primary I would sell you that just needs a set of rollers, otherwise the clutch is in great condition. I will send it to you with shipping for $125.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNOTME View Post
    Boom Stick - I have a 98 Primary I would sell you that just needs a set of rollers, otherwise the clutch is in great condition. I will send it to you with shipping for $125.00
    I sent you a PM

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    Ouch Broomstick, that's one fit for the scrap metal bin. You might want to pull it apart and keep the good bits just in case, that's if there are any. Just remember if you are piecing a clutch together, you must have it balanced or kiss your crank goodbye. Despite exchange not being in your favour, that clutch SNOTME offered is a good price.
    '98 XCR 440 "Red Rocket"

    370 Mains W/TempaFlow Airbox Vented Under Shelf 1/8 Turn CCW
    17.5 Pilots W/UFO's & Torque Flows
    P-4 286 Needle Jet W/6DH7 Needles #2 Position W/1 .020 EGT Shim
    S53Red Weights, Polaris Almond/Gold W/911 Response Cover
    TEAM TSS98 66-44-.46, Red/Blue
    22/41 Gearing
    Camoplast Ice Ripper
    Kimpex Arrow Skis W/Woodys Carbides
    Koso EGT/H20/RPM Digital Gauge

    '16 Switchback Pro-S 800 Snow Check

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianXCR View Post
    Actually the plastic pistons are a known problem on these sleds as they age and yes they do come loose and then you drop a valve and BANG, rest is history. You are supposed to use blue Loctite on the threads. Start cutting springs on your VES and see how your sled runs, you won't like it. $200 may seem a bit steep but you have to remember these are one off parts and you can't expect someone to do all this stuff for free. Of course if they made a run of 200 it would drive the cost down.



    I would try them first, can't go back after you grind them. Try them with the current setup you have now.



    I haven't seem them advertised anywhere other than Winderosas website.

    Well the machinist used for this (Prototype Part) is a very very good machinist saying a High school student did this is like saying your 1998 XCR 440 is a POS your your wife is fat... Enough said about that....Not trying to be rude....


    This was the 1st pair...Hand machined how I asked him to to it.

    Reasons

    1 - I have had valves fall into the cylinders before...boom...not sure why never found out why
    2 - Thus I used blue and red Loctite.
    3 - Trying to remove the valve from the piston with loctite on I have broken the valve right where the thread starts...I did this with just my hands no tools..Valves are aluminum.
    4 - Trying to remove the valve from the piston with loctite on I have heated the plastic valve only to have the brass threads spin out inside the plastic...Piston shot
    5 - I choose to have a smooth bore hole and the use of a nut so I could use a locking nut thus eliminating the problems of threads twisting off
    6 - The nuts are not machined yet but once they are they will me M8 1.0 with the samr 10mm flat to flat as the OEM plastic pistons. And the springs will fit over the nut as they do on the OEM.
    8 - These aluminum pistons feel very very light...I can't tell the difference between these or the plastic ones...If I get a small scale I will weigh

    As far as not being OEM...Go get an OEM when you break one...Do you have OEM wear rods? Spark plugs and belts? This is just a part and a part that will work the the same as any other aftermarket part....From what I see a black hood and red seats not OEM to the 1998 XCR 440 either.

    Cost is $200 because that is what it cost me...I am just a XCR rider and not a parts supplier. I know he programmed his CNC to make more and I am sure the price would go down with some quantity orders...Maybe $125 to $150 a pair? Time is time and he does not machine for free.

    I know He will make them with the correct 8m x 1.0 threads but to machine the raised 10mm face to face integrated nut on the top just like the plastic pistons is not worth the huge amount of time to do this machining task. So if you get the threads you would have a raised round cylinder shape so you would have to us a belt tool like a oil filter wrench or your hands to remove...for some of you prob use a vice grip same what you use to pee with...And if you have to heat because of thread lock you need gloves

    I would say this is my 1st attempt at doing this...the effort is being made so we can keep these girls on the trail! I don't need these because I have a small personal stock pile of the plastic pistons to keep my two 98 XCR's on the trails for years to come....But some people need these now and for sure in the future.


    Opinions and suggestions welcome!!
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