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This is a discussion on XCR 440 owners. within the Polaris forums, part of the Brand Specific Snowmobile Discussion category; Originally Posted by CanadianXCR Ouch Broomstick, that's one fit for the scrap metal bin. You might want to pull it apart and keep the good ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianXCR View Post
    Ouch Broomstick, that's one fit for the scrap metal bin. You might want to pull it apart and keep the good bits just in case, that's if there are any. Just remember if you are piecing a clutch together, you must have it balanced or kiss your crank goodbye. Despite exchange not being in your favour, that clutch SNOTME offered is a good price.
    Yeah, even with the horrible exchange rate, I feel the price is spot on. I do understand the importance of having a balanced clutch. But I wonder if the damage has been done? God only knows how many miles the previous owner has been riding this sled with the clutch missing that large chunk. A couple guys I have shown it too say to just ride it, it'll be fine and then the next guy says I should just tear it down and get it looked at/fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom-Stick View Post
    Yeah, even with the horrible exchange rate, I feel the price is spot on. I do understand the importance of having a balanced clutch. But I wonder if the damage has been done? God only knows how many miles the previous owner has been riding this sled with the clutch missing that large chunk. A couple guys I have shown it too say to just ride it, it'll be fine and then the next guy says I should just tear it down and get it looked at/fixed.
    On the bold, those guys are goddamn idiots and don't have a friggin clue. Spin that sucker to 8250rpm and see what happens. The shop I used to work at still has pieces of clutch shrapnel in the ceiling drywall from a damaged clutch being revved up and exploding. We are talking bullets here guys when this shit comes apart. That sliding half is total junk and that's the end of it. You may be able to salvage the fixed half, spider and cap, but based on the current condition, it would need total tear down and thorough inspection. Might just be worth it to hang on a "wall of shame".
    '98 XCR 440 "Red Rocket"

    370 Mains W/TempaFlow Airbox Vented Under Shelf 1/8 Turn CCW
    17.5 Pilots W/UFO's & Torque Flows
    P-4 286 Needle Jet W/6DH7 Needles #2 Position W/1 .020 EGT Shim
    S53Red Weights, Polaris Almond/Gold W/911 Response Cover
    TEAM TSS98 66-44-.46, Red/Blue
    22/41 Gearing
    Camoplast Ice Ripper
    Kimpex Arrow Skis W/Woodys Carbides
    Koso EGT/H20/RPM Digital Gauge

    '16 Switchback Pro-S 800 Snow Check

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianXCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boom-Stick View Post
    Yeah, even with the horrible exchange rate, I feel the price is spot on. I do understand the importance of having a balanced clutch. But I wonder if the damage has been done? God only knows how many miles the previous owner has been riding this sled with the clutch missing that large chunk. A couple guys I have shown it too say to just ride it, it'll be fine and then the next guy says I should just tear it down and
    get it looked at/fixed.
    On the bold, those guys are goddamn idiots and don't have a friggin clue. Spin that sucker to 8250rpm and see what happens. The shop I used to work at still has pieces of clutch shrapnel in the ceiling drywall from a damaged clutch being revved up and exploding. We are talking bullets here guys when this shit comes apart. That sliding half is total junk and that's the end of it. You may be able to salvage the fixed half, spider and cap, but based on the current condition, it would need total tear down and thorough inspection. Might just be worth it to hang on a "wall of shame".
    I most certainly agree with what you said! I also would not wanna be around when it decides to let go. Another question, with the previous owner riding this sled for who knows how long, would there be crank damage already? And would there be a way to tell without a complete tear down of the engine?

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    Honestly that's a tricky one BroomStick. It's possible it will be fine but something so out of balance rotating on the end of your crank at 7-8000rpm all day long will surely kill bearings in a hurry. All you can do is hope for the best and replace with a good unit. If the bearings are so bad they will make lots of noise to let you know, lol... Tear down is the only way, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet as you don't know how long its been like that. Get that new clutch on there and she how she goes.
    '98 XCR 440 "Red Rocket"

    370 Mains W/TempaFlow Airbox Vented Under Shelf 1/8 Turn CCW
    17.5 Pilots W/UFO's & Torque Flows
    P-4 286 Needle Jet W/6DH7 Needles #2 Position W/1 .020 EGT Shim
    S53Red Weights, Polaris Almond/Gold W/911 Response Cover
    TEAM TSS98 66-44-.46, Red/Blue
    22/41 Gearing
    Camoplast Ice Ripper
    Kimpex Arrow Skis W/Woodys Carbides
    Koso EGT/H20/RPM Digital Gauge

    '16 Switchback Pro-S 800 Snow Check

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianXCR View Post
    Honestly that's a tricky one BroomStick. It's possible it will be fine but something so out of balance rotating on the end of your crank at 7-8000rpm all day long will surely kill bearings in a hurry. All you can do is hope for the best and replace with a good unit. If the bearings are so bad they will make lots of noise to let you know, lol... Tear down is the only way, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet as you don't know how long its been like that. Get that new clutch on there and she how she goes.
    Yeah that's the plan for now, get a clutch in good condition and see what happens. I just hope everything is ok. Going to be doing a lot of riding close to home for the first little while haha.
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    98 XCR 440 OR TRADE FOR TRAIL MACHINE
    Time to sell my 98 440 to someone that is looking for one of Polaris's top production machines ever built. I am moving on to a 4-stroke and am looking for something for my 12 year old to ride. If you are looking for a 98 with all the upgrades talked about on this site, this is the sled you want. Roller clutch, gearing, T-Flow installed in late 2015. Motor has been refreshed as well in 2015 with new crank and top end. I have taking very good care of this machine as they still catch the eye of any snowmobile enthusiast that knows what these sleds are about. Not sure on price just yet as I am willing to negotiate with the person that appreciates something in great condition. If you are interested let me know! I am located in Wisconsin.
    Thanks Much!
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    The allure of a newer machine has bit another, hahaha. Don't blame ya, I still love my old Red Rocket but as time goes on its tough be compete with all the benefits of a new sled. Hopefully it goes to a good home, best of luck.
    '98 XCR 440 "Red Rocket"

    370 Mains W/TempaFlow Airbox Vented Under Shelf 1/8 Turn CCW
    17.5 Pilots W/UFO's & Torque Flows
    P-4 286 Needle Jet W/6DH7 Needles #2 Position W/1 .020 EGT Shim
    S53Red Weights, Polaris Almond/Gold W/911 Response Cover
    TEAM TSS98 66-44-.46, Red/Blue
    22/41 Gearing
    Camoplast Ice Ripper
    Kimpex Arrow Skis W/Woodys Carbides
    Koso EGT/H20/RPM Digital Gauge

    '16 Switchback Pro-S 800 Snow Check

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    Good luck with the sale. Dont think I could get rid of mine. Let alone get what I have in it. Truthfully, in the states you wont see more than $1400 cash. They dont have the following they used to and there are better suspensions out there for the rough stuff.
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    I believe it is pretty much like anything you sell nowadays, you need to find that right person. I still know alot of guys that like these machines for style and performance. It is pretty awesome to line up with a newer 600 and blow them off the line before they catch up. If you are looking for a smooth riding trail machine yes there are many choices out there, if you are looking for a 440 that will make your buddies head spin these machines did that without a doubt. If the machine doesn't have any interest I may part it out as everything works great.

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    That would be a shame to see one that nice get dismantled. You would benefit economically but you will sell your soul in the process. Unfortunately a good winter is getting harder to come by so owning a new sled is a hard pill to swallow. I can see both sides of the coin. I want a newer sled that's more reliable that I can just get on and ride but I want to keep the 440 for when the kids get old enough.
    Rip Nasty '98 XCR 440 with 136" SLP Extension 1.25" Ripsaw
    Carbs: 340 Mains, 40 Pilot, 6DH7 Needle, 159-P4 Needle Jet, Screws 1.25 turns
    Driven: 21:41 Gears, 52-36 Helix, spring in 2nd hole

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