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I thought the previous post titled "What were up against" was bad. Take a look at these posts I found today, I was really taken back by the quote from the Pastor? talk about EVIL!!! [}:)]

http://www.woodworking.com/dcforum/DCForumID14/655.html

Fortunatly I have only had minor problems with people building up snow banks to keep snowmobilers out. In fact one guy who built it in his ditch was forced to tear it down by the police because it caused the sleds to swing out into the roadway to get around his property. We all need to be more respectful of private property and even in a ditch when riding near peoples homes - I concider the ditch part of my lawn as well and do not want it looking like a mud hole in the spring and summer when the rest of the lawn is looking good. Its unbelievable to hear people talking about stringing up piano wire and placing land mines wether it is a joke or not.
 

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It's amazing that there are people out there who would endanger someone's life just to keep an atv or sled away from their property. In some cases I know there are people who do trespass and cause damage, but most times their just cruaing the ditches and i find it's the people who block off driveways (ditches) that are a really the ones breaking the law.

My brother never really did to much sledding but was big on the dirt bike scene....a neighbour of ours decided to plant a role of old rusty barb wire in a ditch that you couldn't see....my brother ended up in it pretty fast tearing his legs up pretty good...needless to say my father had a "talk" with this neighbour and we never had anymore probs.

Best thing to do is avoid places like this and if you can't report them to the authorities!
 

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That is like what the Sierra club (the enemy) used to do to the loggers in Oregon some years ago. The 1970s if I remember right.
They went after them using nothing short of terrorist tactics.
A few (2 or 3) loggers got dead in the process.

Nasty deal, but hey. These people are trying to preserve things. Ya right.
 

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i like the piano wire deal my friend lost his nose and his family made a million off the people who put the wire up because they never said it was thier property and the snowmobile trail went right through there and they dont mark them well around here
 

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We had a problem this year with the trail markings around Isabella Mn. The club would put up there trail sign's, and the next day they were gone! They also had some destruction to the trail's like tree's cut down to block them and 4X4 truck tracks tearing them up!I think this shows ignorance,not hatred.These people who do this kinda stuff don't realize that they are only hurting their own community.How do you think the "Mom and Pop" bars,motel's and restaraunt's can stay open in the off season.They need snowmobilers to boost the local economy.
 

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i fell off my sled today just playing around and my sled took out a sign for a brigde(sp) but i dont think i have ever seen anyone use the brigde
 

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Originally posted by jzarwell
[br]I thought the previous post titled "What were up against" was bad. Take a look at these posts I found today, I was really taken back by the quote from the Pastor? talk about EVIL!!! [}:)]

http://www.woodworking.com/dcforum/DCForumID14/655.html What a BUNCH OF F*CKIN' SCUMBAGS[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!]!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fortunatly I have only had minor problems with people building up snow banks to keep snowmobilers out. In fact one guy who built it in his ditch was forced to tear it down by the police because it caused the sleds to swing out into the roadway to get around his property. We all need to be more respectful of private property and even in a ditch when riding near peoples homes - I concider the ditch part of my lawn as well and do not want it looking like a mud hole in the spring and summer when the rest of the lawn is looking good. Its unbelievable to hear people talking about stringing up piano wire and placing land mines wether it is a joke or not.
 

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Some one put up fishing line on one of our trails here, i was following behind my buddy who had his little brother with him. The fishing line hit his brother's helmet then caught my buddy in the face. Ripped him off his sled, then the sled coasted into a tree. If it had not been for his brother's head it would have caught him on the neck[xx(] When we went to the cops they said it is leagal to ride there and they came and got castings of the foot prints, so if it happened agian they could figure out if it was the same jerk.
 

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people do smoething like that to sabatoge PWC's, they tie beer cans and fishing line all together and leave them floating in the lake, I even saw a guy bragging about it on a message board for sail boats once, just goes to show there are @$%^^ers all over the place that have something against fun. If you don't want someone on your property, call the police!
 

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I am now embarassed to be a woodworker and hobbiest. I just put a simple sign around my small trees, not one snowmobile has been through there in 3 years, first year was a mess, but I didn't have it posted. 99% of snowmobile enthusiasts are respectful people, ever broke down, takes just one guy to happen by and lend a hand. I personally haven't broke down on the trail yet, but I have helped plenty of folks.
 

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Anyone that does anything like that, barbed wire , piano wire , fishing line etc... no matter where it is is liable if it hurts someone. Poeple that even think of things like that have mental issues. Simple signs , possibly that orange plastic fencing and other non harmful means work far better and keep everybody happy. Makes you sick to read something like that especially when a supposed "man of the cloth" feels the need to respond too.
 

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I think if you collect enough dog poo, and make a dog poo barrier around your property, you would keep them off your property. Nothings as good as the smell of dog poo flinging off of your track.
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Originally posted by ArcticcatkidZR600
[br]Why doesn't the guy just say he dont cut across here? How are they sappose(sp?) to know there doing something wrong?

i think that is all the author wants to do, something small and non-lethal. But the peopel responding to his post are just plain nuts.
 

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Originally posted by ArcticcatkidZR600
[br]Why doesn't the guy just say he dont cut across here? How are they sappose(sp?) to know there doing something wrong?

exactly, if they are his neighbors, then why doesn't he just talk to them, instead of being a @$$hole and seting up something that might kill somebody.
 

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For the record, I read that topic and the guy asking the question didn't even seem to entertain the notion, or find it amusing, that people were suggesting killing the snowmobilers.

On the other hand those other idiots are certainly not funny.

I think that if they did purposely set up something like that and someone did get hurt, there would be major issues brought upon the guy, signed or not.
 

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If you see any one doing this it is highly illegal and growns for prosocution. This could be considered murder in the court of law. It is premetatated to string something across a trail to try and hurt someone.
 

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I can understand riding through someones yard but when there is a perfectly legal trail then its is just flat out dumb. I live next to a recreational Lake (Rice Lake, in case someone may know of it..this would be a summer example) and for years, at least the last 8 years, it was was ok for riders to ride in the ditch(on the yard side). These last two years,however, people started putting nails up and then big rocks on the trails. There was one time I came over an approach, not knowing this had started happening, and there was probably 15 to 20 rocks the size of a grapefruit scattered around, and being on two wheels made it that much more interesting, I almost biffed it into the "rock pile". Well finally they started putting up signs, so the trail was ok'd to be on the other side of the road. That lasted maybe a month. Now they have nails and rocks over there, one guy I know had just bought a new four wheeler, first ride and he had 27 nails in his tires. I can't even imagine how mad they would get if that kind of stuff happened on their trail(road that is), what I really don't get is that its a recreational lake, its been ok for years and then suddenly some new people move in and alls they can do is whine. Now we can't even ride by Lake Sakakawea, why do people think that there hobby like fishing, hunting, or riding horse is ok but ATV's, bikes, and sleds aren't (by the way I have nothing against fishing, hunting, or riding horse..I do two of the three and my mom is into riding horse..just examples).
 

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people like that need to join the unibomber up in the high mountain's somewere ,so they wont be disturbed ,whoop's I forgot he's in jail
 
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