I would say that studs that are the same length of your lugs would not help you much.
2002 Arctic Cat ZR 800 EFI
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Buying Studs
Im gonna be buying some studs for my sled, its a FIII 700. I believe it has 3/4 inch lugs on it. I am just wondering what size studs I should get. I have read that you should have about 1/4 -3/8 of penetration, but I also to talked to a guy that said for around here i could go with studs that were of equal length as my lugs. He said by doing that it would be less stress on the track. I'm from western new york, so its not like we get a ton of snow. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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I would go with the longer ones. Studs help a little in snow, but they are great in icy conditions. Studs that are the same length as your lugs would be worthless.
yeah i agree if you dont get studs longer than your track lug they are worthless
You should probably go with the 1/4 above the lug. My dad put 1 3/8 on his new X, w/ 1in lugs, and he already has bent and broken studs. I think that 3/8 above is a little big.
I may be young, but I ain't dumb!!!
I may be young, but I ain't dumb!!!
Did your dad have carbide studs or steel studs?? If he had steel thats probably the problem!
Thanks for the input, I guess I will go with some 1 inchers then. Kinda sounded wierd to me about putting studs the same length as the lugs. Thanks again.
xc 700 man carbide studs are just carbide tipped not the whole thing. My dad's Stainless steel carbide tipped studs have already bent and broken. He drag races often so they get used big time. studs the same length as your lug won't do jack. 1/4" larger than your lug is the way to go. So yes for you 1"ers.
They were just normal Woody's trail studs. He has also tried those Sabers I think and those bent really easy. And one of his buddy's used to use Stud Boys, and those bent real easy too I guess. So my dad stuck with Woody's.
I may be young, but I ain't dumb!!!
I may be young, but I ain't dumb!!!
I would go with 1" studs. I've put over 1500 miles on the Sabers on my sled without any bending, I have lost a few carbide tips from some stupid mishaps with the concrete floor in my garage( not having the sled up high enough when I was running it). But other than that they have been great. Make sure you don't under stud the track, too few studs stresses each stud too much and make sure you match the length of carbide on your skiis to the number of studs. The link below to Select Sales has some general info on numbers and length of studs for individual
sleds.http://www.selectsales1.com/
2001 ZL800
Delta IIs
Power Breather
MBRP Silencer
Coupling Kit
Goodwin Clutch Kit
Creek beds don't make good brakes!
sleds.http://www.selectsales1.com/
2001 ZL800
Delta IIs
Power Breather
MBRP Silencer
Coupling Kit
Goodwin Clutch Kit
Creek beds don't make good brakes!
Select Sales is also the cheapest on Sbaer studs around. BUt don't order them if you need them in 2 days. Most of the ppl I know who have dealt with them had one problem or another. They aren't the most efficient at selling this stuff. Also Saber has a garauntee that if your studs bend you just send them back and they will replace them free. All you have to do is pay shipping. Don't do that for broken ones but all you do is pull out the broken ones and bend them. My dad ran woody's on the XCR 600 when it was still his and bny the end of the season they were destroyed. So he wanted to switch to something else and my uncle's sabers had held up well.
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Select Sales is also the cheapest on Sbaer studs around. BUt don't order them if you need them in 2 days. Most of the ppl I know who have dealt with them had one problem or another. They aren't the most efficient at selling this stuff. Also Saber has a garauntee that if your studs bend you just send them back and they will replace them free. All you have to do is pay shipping. Don't do that for broken ones but all you do is pull out the broken ones and bend them. My dad ran woody's on the XCR 600 when it was still his and bny the end of the season they were destroyed. So he wanted to switch to something else and my uncle's sabers had held up well.
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I ordered mine one morning and had them the next day. A friend ordered them on a Saturday and had them Monday. Maybe it's just the close proximity, a little over a hundred miles away.
Their warranty doesn't cover broken carbide tips unfortunately
2001 ZL800
Delta IIs
Power Breather
MBRP Silencer
Coupling Kit
Goodwin Clutch Kit
Creek beds don't make good brakes!
Select Sales is also the cheapest on Sbaer studs around. BUt don't order them if you need them in 2 days. Most of the ppl I know who have dealt with them had one problem or another. They aren't the most efficient at selling this stuff. Also Saber has a garauntee that if your studs bend you just send them back and they will replace them free. All you have to do is pay shipping. Don't do that for broken ones but all you do is pull out the broken ones and bend them. My dad ran woody's on the XCR 600 when it was still his and bny the end of the season they were destroyed. So he wanted to switch to something else and my uncle's sabers had held up well.
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I ordered mine one morning and had them the next day. A friend ordered them on a Saturday and had them Monday. Maybe it's just the close proximity, a little over a hundred miles away.
Their warranty doesn't cover broken carbide tips unfortunately
2001 ZL800
Delta IIs
Power Breather
MBRP Silencer
Coupling Kit
Goodwin Clutch Kit
Creek beds don't make good brakes!
correct ti doesn't but just bend the ones without tips it covers taht 
don't send all broken ones back though mix it up with some perfect ones that are just bent. anyway yeah some guys I know got theirs like 3 days later even all the way out here in Pennsylvania but I know one guy who didn't get his for a month and we didn't get ours for weeks. They don't seem to be a big company. Our one friend almost died when his ass end kicked out riding studless because his Select Sales order took more than a month to come!
don't send all broken ones back though mix it up with some perfect ones that are just bent. anyway yeah some guys I know got theirs like 3 days later even all the way out here in Pennsylvania but I know one guy who didn't get his for a month and we didn't get ours for weeks. They don't seem to be a big company. Our one friend almost died when his ass end kicked out riding studless because his Select Sales order took more than a month to come!Don't forget tunnel protection.
Rich
Rich
not all sleds need that. Most modern ones come with them from the factory.
yeah like on arctic cats that is so and I am not sure about edges but I know my 96 XCR had heat exchangers under the seat but I think it had protectors too. The Viper has protectors I have no idea about Skippys though.
k good to know. Do the edges have coolant flow through the running board edge? I know on the F7 coolant flows through the round edge on the edge of the running boards. Do Edges do that?
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