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2 of my machines, both with composite ski's have a darting problem. The 500 Classic is enough almost to toss my son off the machine. I have tried increasing ski pressure and reducing, but it doesn't seem to help. Also, have tried the EZ-steers and a regular 6 inch carbide, to no avail. The bushings have been flipped. Any other suggestions from this distinguished crowd?

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Minimum Carbide we run is 8". That is in upstate New York though. I am not really familiar with what darting is. Can someone explain it to me? I hear about it and just don't know.
 

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its called the absence of balls... its when u punch the throttle and ur nuts hit ur rear grab bar from the extreme G's pullin on ya... lol i dunno maybe not! lol sounds funny tho!

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If you have a Gen II chassis with the twin, its hard to get away from. I have the same problem with my 500 XC SP. I was told to add more ski pressure with the limiter strap. I haven't riden mine since I did it though. The guy that told me to try it is a little sh*t like me with the same sled. I thoght that it would only cause a bigger problem by doing it but he said that it helped him out.
 

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The only thing i know that works is to go with something like trikeel skis. I had the same problem with an ac cougar, paid alot for the skis and the problem went away. The easy steers i dont like already took them off my new sled. hope this helps
 

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For those who asked, darting is when you are going straight on a trail and suddenly your sled will quickly dart to the left or right. It is like the ski's are following ruts made by other sleds. Polaris is know for doing this the worse. My suggestion is to switch to one of the dual carbide ski's availible.

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Yeah, I would go with the dual carbide skis. They should eliminate the problem.

 

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To adjust your sled for darting you need to REDUCE ski pressure. So you can go about this in one of two ways. 1: Relax springs on the ski's (lengthen the springs) 2: Increase front track pressure by lengthening the front limiter straps or increasing the front track spring rate.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Originally posted by intendedacceleration:

For those who asked, darting is when you are going straight on a trail and suddenly your sled will quickly dart to the left or right. It is like the ski's are following ruts made by other sleds. Polaris is know for doing this the worse. My suggestion is to switch to one of the dual carbide ski's availible.

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Piped and Clutched[/quote] odd never had that before.
 

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Darting can also be caused by incorrect Toe-in and Toe-out of the skis. I hope you've already checked your allignment before buying different skis..... Just a thought.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Originally posted by MegaMan:

Darting can also be caused by incorrect Toe-in and Toe-out of the skis. I hope you've already checked your allignment before buying different skis..... Just a thought.

Let it snow!

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Yes, this is correct.....I should have said this before. Although adjusting those didn't really help my sled much in that aspect however.


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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Originally posted by TriumphoverU:

To adjust your sled for darting you need to REDUCE ski pressure. So you can go about this in one of two ways. 1: Relax springs on the ski's (lengthen the springs) 2: Increase front track pressure by lengthening the front limiter straps or increasing the front track spring rate.

Polaris is my way out - Other people just use a door.[/quote]


This would be the most correct method. I moved my strap to the last hole, has a bit of extra flex. Then go back and adjust the front suspension for correct turning ability. There is information available at Polaris web site on setting proper suspension a little vague but good. You will need to play the movies.

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Thanks for the insight. Gonna have to continue playing with it then.

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Magoo, have you checked the rest of the bushings in the steering department? How much 'slack' do you have in the steering arm joints and spindle bushings, ski bushings, radius rod bushings and trailing arm bushings. Lots there that could add up to some sloppy steering as I found on my XLTs.

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If you guys are looking for a cheep fix try this it worked for me.Look at the wear on your carbide runners if and most likely they are wearing on the front portion of the ski try shimming the back of the ski down at the ski rubber to bring the front of the ski up to help keep the skis from following the ruts left by other sleds I used a piece of angle iron about an 1/8" thick. you may need to experiment with this thickness to fine tune.Hope this helps.
 

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That is very creative and a good thought I wil look into that more myself and experiment. Thanks

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Like xrcnut I wedged a piece of fan belt under the spindle on top of the rubber bumper. This will lift the front of the ski, to reduce the darting.
 

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That is what I like about this forum. Learning somthing I never thought of Thanks Guys.

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hehe, just pin it and don't let the skis touch. You should be good to go from there. At least that is the 'technique' I'm using on the Mountain Max until I can get new skis and carbides!


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