Hey i have a ? about silencers

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confusedguy

Discussion Starter · Mar 4, 2002

i recently bought my xc 500 sp with the ves exhaust, anyway i found a few silencers for it, and i was wondering what you all think of them if they are a good idea or bad, and what kinda performance i can get outa of them, basically i want one to make my sled a little lighter. but im not sure if its worth 200+ for it i know i will get a few more hp as well, but do you have to rejet for it? or do you do that if you get a whole exhaust system, also what bout boost bottles, i see those advertised all over but i dont really know what they do, i know they dont cost a whole lot. any info will help

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ACG

· #2 · Mar 4, 2002

for the 2 pounds or whatever u will lose w/ the silencer, i dont think the $200 is worth it. Are you planning on getting a race or trail silencer? race is louder and many ppl dont especially like em, mainly ppls houses u ride by. any exhuast changes are harder on the engines than stock.

Ready to Ride...NEED SNOW!!!!!!...if you have snow, i hate you...

hotrod

· #3 · Mar 5, 2002

I hope your not looking for more power allready. Your gonna make a lot of guys feel foolish. Remember the size wars we all had in one of your other posts.

Tfin70

· #4 · Mar 5, 2002

Yeah, from what I've heard about silencers, you only gain like 2-3 hp...and thats usually on low to mid range. In some cases they actually take away from your top end. For the most part its just a sound change, and no you USUALLY don't have to re-jet for just adding a can.

As for boost bottles, I don't know too much about them. I've heard they don't make that much of a difference, others say they do.

1997 XLT SP 600

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wacky_woodchuck

· #5 · Mar 5, 2002

I thought the same way about can's also. They add minimal hp's, and lose only a few punds, and take away top end, require rejetting and so on... Well that's not the case!

I added a D&D quiet can on my 2000 AC ZL500 (bought it for a steal off of eBay and thought I would try it) and well it works good! Better than I expected. It removed 7 pounds from my sled (bathroom scale comparision) Typical for every 5-8lbs removed equals 1 hp added. The sound is amazing.. though the cats sound good stock, and rejetting not required. I rejetting after break in, and with adding the can, it leaned out my midrange enough so I'm perfectly jetted. Nice tan wash on the piston, and on the plugs. This was tested with a straight run in low, mid and upper rpms, in about 15 degree F weather. So I know she's not gonna burn up on me. Top end has not suffered, neither has low or mid range. I gained some top end mph's... and have great throttle response now!

So all in all I am an advocate for adding a can now. They work well (the D&D one at least) and add some good features. Plus I didn't change the relibility of my sled or trailability of my sled either, as with adding twin pipes or even a single pipe (some cases) So go ahead, there's nothing to loose. Check eBay and try to get a used can to see if you'll like it. For your Polaris... Hot Seat is the way to go (IMHO) with SLP close behind...

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Mike

2000 Arctic Cat ZL500 - D&D Racing Can, D&D Clutching, Re-Jetted It, 120 Woody's, Various Appearance Acc.

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intendedacceleration

· #6 · Mar 5, 2002

Hmmmm, I wonder how my EFI would react to a can. I might have to look into that!

2002 Arctic Cat ZR 800 EFI

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wacky_woodchuck

· #7 · Mar 5, 2002

Personally intended... I would say add it! What does your EFi have to do with the stock can? Nothing!!!! Cat's EFI is an open loop EFI and has enough variation built into the system so as to not lean down the motor. Only when adding pipes is when EFI motors can't handle the extra breathing. Hey all you can do is try it. Run it on an open field and look at your piston washes, and plugs. If they are silver or white... take it off... anything resembling a tannish color/mocha/cocco brown.. your good. I would also take into account the temp of the day... but with EFI it shouldn't matter....

What have you got to loose? Besides the $200 for a silencer? Check eBay.... and again, as you can see... I highly... HIGHLY recommend going with D&D. Black maginc, is okay, but their quality and durability hasn't been the greatest. All my D&D stuff works great, has awesome quality, and has last for a few seasons now with abuse!

Disclaimer: I do not work for D&D, and only state said opinions as exactly that. My opinions! I only state what I have experienced with said company's, either in person, or secondary. Enjoy!

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Mike

2000 Arctic Cat ZL500 - D&D Racing Can, D&D Clutching, Re-Jetted It, 120 Woody's, Various Appearance Acc.

Edited by - wacky_woodchuck on 05 Mar 2002 08:57:41

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confusedguy

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 5, 2002

NONO i love my sled i had the needle saying 105 on the lake, although it was powder and i was not hooking up at all, but i want to lose some weight , its a lot heavier than im used to, i just figured thats a good place to start.

Tfin70

· #9 · Mar 5, 2002

I guess it all depends on the sled and the can. My friend has a 2000 SX 700R w/a Bender can on it. The sound is AWESOME! But w/his sled and set up, he loses a little on top end (and I do mean just a little) and gains on low to mid range power. The can also actually improves his starting of the sled, it starts easier w/ the can than the stock silencer. And yes, it definately decreases the wt.

I'm for em, and when I get my new sled this comming fall I'm definately going to look into getting one for it.

1997 XLT SP 600

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XCSP 700GUY

· #10 · Mar 5, 2002

My opinion is the louder the pipes the better.

xc racer

· #11 · Mar 6, 2002

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Originally posted by intendedacceleration:

Hmmmm, I wonder how my EFI would react to a can. I might have to look into that!

2002 Arctic Cat ZR 800 EFI

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do you even know what the stock silencer is like yet?

There's no stopping Arctic Cat........ REALLY!!

'99 XC SP 500

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Tfin70

· #12 · Mar 6, 2002

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Originally posted by xc racer:

do you even know what the stock silencer is like yet?

There's no stopping Arctic Cat........ REALLY!!

'99 XC SP 500
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Ouch!

1997 XLT SP 600
"Engage the Mechanism"

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intendedacceleration

· #13 · Mar 6, 2002

Very true indeed! Actually wide open I have no idea what it sounds like, but at idle all the way up to half throttle the stock exhaust is easily as loud if not louder than the PSI triple pipes I had on my storm.

2002 Arctic Cat ZR 800 EFI

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hotrod

· #14 · Mar 6, 2002

Well all season Ive been trying to lay blame on something for the horrible snow conditions. I think Ive got it now. Its all Intendeds fault. Why?..... Because the Polaris snow gods were angry at him for switching to Green. And we all know the Polaris snow gods are the most powerful of all the snow gods. Everyone should drop Intended a note about this winter. hehe. maybe we should start a new post.
so not to interfere with this topic.

Edited by - hotrod on March 06 2002 11:10:51 AM

confusedguy

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 6, 2002

LOL..... DAMN YOU INTENDED!!!!!!!!!

intendedacceleration

· #16 · Mar 6, 2002

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Hey now....be nice!!!

2002 Arctic Cat ZR 800 EFI

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RtkatZL8

· #17 · Mar 10, 2002

I put an MBRP silencer on my 800 this year. Not sure if it really added any HP but it didn't hurt and it dropped 10lbs off the front of my sled and it has a much deeper sound. It's their trail version so it's not offensively loud.

2001 ZL800
Delta IIs
Power Breather
MBRP Silencer
Coupling Kit
Goodwin Clutch Kit

Creek beds don't make good brakes!

RtkatZL8

· #18 · Mar 10, 2002

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Originally posted by intendedacceleration:

Hmmmm, I wonder how my EFI would react to a can. I might have to look into that!

2002 Arctic Cat ZR 800 EFI

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With the BEFI the engines breath a little differently than with carbs. If you go to a different can make sure it was developed for your sled.

2001 ZL800
Delta IIs
Power Breather
MBRP Silencer
Coupling Kit
Goodwin Clutch Kit

Creek beds don't make good brakes!

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arcticcatmatt

· #19 · Mar 12, 2002

i saw a black magic can on ebay one day. at least i thought is was black magic. the guy said... lose 10 lbs, and it will gain u 10 hp. so i took my can out to check it weight and it only weighed like around 5 lbs anyway. so how could replacing it lose me 5 more lbs? i put it back in and didn't buy it.

1992 arctic cat jag deluxe
1996 ZRT 600

rocket

· #20 · Apr 4, 2002

I don't know how I missed this post!!! This is exactly the nature of my business. I think I can answer any of your questions truthfully about silencers. I Will answer any ? as best I can without being biased towards any one can including my own that we build. Any ?'s welcome on this forum, or towards my e-mail
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There are some errors in the posts here about adding cans to efi sleds that I found tho. I would be very careful about adding a can to an efi sled. we tested for 6 months on arctics 800 efi and had very interesting results. Remember, efi's are calculated towards specific configurations, and changing those by adding a can can cause certain things to happen, even just a silencer, I have seen it first hand. But like I said, any question I think I can answer for you, especially regarding the cans I make, without trying to sway you towards buying my product too much.

I just thought I'd let you all know

I don't brake until I see God!

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