Quote on F7 Firecat

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RtkatZL8

Discussion Starter · Feb 24, 2002

I was surfing the net today looking at sleds and came accross a dealership in Oxford MI. Their add stated they would beat any ones price on a new Cat. So I filed out the quote request for an F7 Sabercat with the Sno Pro suspension. List price is $8299. I just got the reply, in their quote it didn't have the specifics as to whether or not it was the Sabercat with SP susp. but the quote was for $7069! I was amazed.
I've got a substantial raise coming April 1st, I might have to take a trip to Oxford MI. and leave some of my raise there.
I work for Bank One Corp. and am going to have to visit a site we have in Belleville MI only about an hour from Oxford, I think I might mix a little pleasure with business and check out their store.
Has anyone had any dealings with Wheels USA in Oxford?

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Polaris-Man

· #2 · Feb 24, 2002

That strikes me as quite expensive. In Canadian dollars that is over 10 grand. For a 700.

hmmm

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Sled_Dog

· #3 · Feb 24, 2002

retail is $7600 the 2003 ZR 800 is going for more retail anyway. That is with the non-SnoPro suspension anyway.

Edited by - Sled_Dog on February 23 2002 8:35:46 PM

six4aTD

· #4 · Feb 24, 2002

I don't understand how that strikes Polaris Man as quite expensive. Even though we've had a crappy winter, the Firecat is still some of the latest hardware. And the Sabre cat is a special order, as is the sno pro suspension. If you ask me, getting more than a $1000 off is very reasonable. I realize that this quote does not clearly specify the exact model, but even for a base F7, that price is about $500 below MSRP. Also, considering the technology that goes into sleds these days, I think they're all priced dirt cheap. The retail prices on sleds has certainly not kept up with inflation or the strength of the dollar. This is not to mention the increased amount spent on R&D and event & rider sponserships.
But we're all entitled to our opinions, and if I had the choice between 1) a new F7 or 2) one month of nice snow to ride on; well--sorry AC, my $7000 would go toward the snow. Do I sound desperate for snow or what?!!

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Edited by - six4aTD on February 23 2002 11:42:23 PM

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Sled_Dog

· #5 · Feb 24, 2002

it is a good price. Whatever anyway the Sabercat package doesn't cost anything extra. The special packages don't cost extra. I don't think anyway. I will check right now but I am 99% sure.
just checked the other packages don't cost anything extra. Unlike Polaris with the Edge X.

Edited by - Sled_Dog on February 23 2002 11:51:21 PM

Polaris-Man

· #6 · Feb 24, 2002

No need to jump on my case.

I think it's quite expensive because when converted to the money I make it's almost thirteen thousand dollars. If you think that that is cheap for a 700, you are either a) rich or b) stupid.

You basically don't have anything to compare it to. Comparing to list price doesn't make sense cuz they can make that whatever they want. If Cat wanted 10 grand for a 500, some morons would probably pay it. Same way that Polaris rips people off for putting X decals on their sleds.

But I really don't want to get into pricing on stuff, because we don't know what they cost to produce. The only way you can avoid these types of arguments, is by holding a balance sheet from the companies and finding out exactly what everything costs.

But to me, these prices seem high. So don't go raggin on my opinion, cuz that's what it is.

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Polaris-Man

· #7 · Feb 24, 2002

Just one last thing

7100 dollars or whatever plus tax is far from dirt cheap. Especially for a toy.

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RtkatZL8

Discussion Starter · #8 · Feb 24, 2002

Yes $7100 is a lot for 'A Toy', I was just posting this because I thought it was a good deal for the latest and greatest from any manufacture. The list on the Firecat without Sno Pro is $7799 not $7600, a ZR800 Sno Pro lists for $8699.
I have a 2001 800 Cat now, but I think I would like a hundred pound lighter 700 that has the same HP more!
As I was surfing yesterday I was also checking out other brands.... I found one Polaris dealership closing out their 2002s, they still want $7259 for an XC700! So $7069 doesn't sound like a bad price for a 2003 F7. The Sabercat package doesn't cost any more but the Sno Pro suspension does.

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MBRP Silencer
Coupling Kit
Goodwin Clutch Kit

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93SafariDlx

· #9 · Feb 24, 2002

Really it's kinda inline with Yamaha's 700's, which I've always found kinda pricey.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Originally posted by Polaris-Man:

No need to jump on my case.

I think it's quite expensive because when converted to the money I make it's almost thirteen thousand dollars. If you think that that is cheap for a 700, you are either a) rich or b) stupid.

You basically don't have anything to compare it to. Comparing to list price doesn't make sense cuz they can make that whatever they want. If Cat wanted 10 grand for a 500, some morons would probably pay it. Same way that Polaris rips people off for putting X decals on their sleds.

But I really don't want to get into pricing on stuff, because we don't know what they cost to produce. The only way you can avoid these types of arguments, is by holding a balance sheet from the companies and finding out exactly what everything costs.

But to me, these prices seem high. So don't go raggin on my opinion, cuz that's what it is.

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XLR8

· #10 · Feb 24, 2002

I used to be a manager at a daelership not to far from Wheels. When I was in the business they were "Wheels of O", and they were a decent dealership. Problem is alot of dealerships around here are changing hands and the people coming in are looking to turn a quick buck. I can't say for sure what Wheels is like now, I'm just saying make sure you are really getting the deal they say. Make sure they are talking OTD not +++. I once had a guy brag about what a great deal he had gotten at another dealer, when he showed me his contract he had almost $2000 in add on costs. I could have sold him one cheaper at full retail than he got on his "great deal". Also something else people should think about, I'm all for getting a good deal but if your brand new sled breaks the weekend before a big trip and your local dealer won't work on it for two or three weeks because you didn't buy it from them, how much will it cost to cancel a trip or take it back to the dealer you bought it from?

RtkatZL8

Discussion Starter · #11 · Feb 24, 2002

XLR8, I agree with you 100%. I just haven't contacted my local dealer yet. When I bought my 800 I checked dealers within 500 miles of where I live, the best price I found was in Marquette, MI over 400 miles away. I went back to my local shop to see what he could do. He came within $200 of the other price, I bought it local. After the Cat show in my area in March when I can actually sit on one and see how it feels I'll make a decission as to whether or not I'm going to buy a new sled. The first place I'll check pricing will be the shop I bought my last one from.

2001 ZL800
Delta IIs
Power Breather
MBRP Silencer
Coupling Kit
Goodwin Clutch Kit

Creek beds don't make good brakes!

Sled_Dog

· #12 · Feb 24, 2002

Yeah it is a lot of money for sure. but in the scheme of things it is less than retail. And when I said the $7600 I added that was with the standard not sno pro suspension. I knew that number off the top of my head I didn't know the SnoPro one.

Tfin70

· #13 · Feb 25, 2002

I agree thats expensive for a "toy", but that sounds about ballpark for new sleds in that catagory in my area.

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intendedacceleration

· #14 · Feb 25, 2002

Hell I paid over 8 grand for my lawn ornament....7 grand sounds good to me! PS what do you think they would give me for a trade on my sled?

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Tfin70

· #15 · Feb 25, 2002

Just guessing here, but if I remember correctly you don't have many miles on it at all. I'd say you'd loose between $500 and $1000 off what you originally paid for it. That's a total guess though.

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intendedacceleration

· #16 · Feb 25, 2002

Yeah I have 9 miles on it.....bought it with 4 miles. I would think that I would lose much more than that but if that is true I might call and order a firecat!

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Sled_Dog

· #17 · Feb 25, 2002

lose more than that. It is just like a car soon as it comes off the lot it loses a couple hundred to thousand dollars.

ACG

· #18 · Feb 25, 2002

if ur gonna lose a thousand off of it for 5 miles, might as well ride it for 500-100 miles and take off 1500 and get some fun outa it.....thats what i think anyway...i spose if u could get a firecat even up from ur 800, good deal.

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six4aTD

· #19 · Feb 26, 2002

I'm not really rich, but may be a little stupid. As we get older, we don't care quite as much what it costs for our recreation since we don't seem to have as much time as we used to. We just want it to be fun. And riding a great, new sled is fun.
But I take back my "dirt cheap" comment and rephrase it with "reasonably priced." Considering all costs incrued in developing a new engine and chassis, and changing lines to the new parts, specs, training, promotion, etc.., it is remarkable that prices can even remain competitive. But again, they are not dirt cheap, although I think some of you young dudes who have a lot of computer expertise may some day make the kind of money that will make you think that new sleds are indeed dirt cheap.

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intendedacceleration

· #20 · Feb 26, 2002

Well I decided to put some miles on it this weekend. I am going to keep my sled and am going to get a race sled instead of the firecat.

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