[niceorange]

I know the post was locked, but I have this to offer...

I'm of the oppinion that jetski operators need to be educated. I agree with the environmental groups because I see on my lake the way jetski and waverunners are misused and the problems they cause. The vehicle is not the problem, its the trendy folk who have never driven a boat before, but think its cool to do 70 mph on a 1/2 mile long pond. Not to say that snowmobilers are always responsible with their rides, but there seems to be a better code of conduct and higher expectations among fellow snowmobilers to treat the environment with respect.

95 XLT Special
88 Saffari 377
89 Saffari Saga 377

 

[xltman]

i have to agree, i was kneeboarding one sunny afternoon, and a young kid on a waverunner(polaris i might add) was jumpin my boats wake about 8-10 ft. behind me, i got really mad, got back in the boat, and chased him back to his cabin and bi&ched em out, that aint cool, but i say the snowmobilers are really a friendly sort of folk



Edited by - xltman on October 19 2001 8:46:55 PM

 

[2000TCMC]

Man I don't know, the enviromentalist have closed Kachamak bay to Jet Ski's & Waverunners because they are noisy and might disturb the wild life. They used a commercial of a modified jetski out of the water to demonstrate how loud they are and then showed a little cove and called it Kachemak bay. The Bay is 100's of Sq miles & my Seadoo GTS is quiter than 90% of the boats they allow. Don't start agreeing or our favorite sport is next on the list.
Education or some form of operators liscence makes more sense than saying a group is not allow to use an area.
Access is a problem for all motorsports don't give them an inch or we will all be sitting around watching the wilderness out the window.

My 02 cents

 

[erick]

Oh, I locked that one cause there was a post the exact same thing in a different category. Talk about it all you want...

 

[niceorange]

Im sorry, I was not very clear in my orignial post. I am not siding with the environmentalists view that areas should be shut down, I just agree with the notion that many jetskis are a problem. I dont think that closing areas to the watercraft is the answer at all. I just think that people need to be educated about proper usage of the machines, for their safety, the safety of others, and the safety of the environment. Drivers certification classes or something along those lines is a good idea. Dont close their areas, open their minds.

95 XLT Special
88 Saffari 377
89 Saffari Saga 377

Edited by - niceorange on 21 Oct 2001 11:35:14

 

[700ZXM]

I do agree that if personal watercraft operaters don't smarten up they're gonna lose access to alot more lakes.
I won't go any further than that cause the subject p!sses me off, The way some riders act they spoil it for the curteous ones.

SKI-DOO ROCKS!!

 

[wryjoker]

I just sold my two stand-up models cause of the dislike on the lake from the neighbors. I liked the feeling kinda like a sled/dirtbike/boat thing. However I rode responsible there are alot of younger peoples who always make a bad name. All it takes is one to make them all look poor, Two and they look bad or reckless to the older people.
Sleds hide it a little better cause they close thier windows in the winter and not as much heard

"Meaningless Ride"

 

[18scott]

wryjoker, what did you have in the way of standups? I have a Kawasaki 750 standup. It is just about as trick as you can get them without doing extensive engine work. It has: intake, jetted, race head/interchangable domes, race exhaust, header, race waterbox, skat-trak impeller, larger pump nozzle, extended ride plate, scoop water grate, aluminum handle pole with billet aluminum hand holds for backwards trick riding, quick turn steering plate, aluminum handle bars with matching grips, billet bilge on/off switch - handle bar mounted, billet finger throttle, beautiful custom paint job, full AP Designs tray traction mat and handle pole pad, the list keeps going. I still ride very responsibly and try not to anger the fisherman or boaters. I do jump wakes behind boats, but keep a very far distance. Usually, the boat operator will slow down to make the larger wakes for me to jump. I sometimes will push the nose over and will do a submarine. The people in the boats always get a kick out of it. The key is to ride responsibly, and respect the other people sharing the water with you. It is amazing how many boaters will drive up to you and ask about your ski, or how long you have been riding, etc if you keep your distance while performing tricks.

Wanted!! Polaris 340 TXL any Polaris 340 or TXL. "[email protected]"

 

[wryjoker]

Well to be quick a slightly mod js750sx And my 440sx was all pro stock.

I started with a basic 750sx stock rode it once as a token to kawasaki to see what it was like. What a dog.

Then custom handle pole mat nice and thin, Quick turn, 0 deg bars, thick grips, trigger throttle, pump switch, aluminum pole (after the stock broke), widened bushings, fiber plated nose, quick release, spring tensioner helper, routered stock hood openings, removed all foam (to allow air flow),stock 440 fuel tank milled top to recieve the 750 stock selector, clear/blue fuel line, remove the oil tank, twin 500 gph water pumps front, one 750 gph pump rear (machined brackets) seperately fused, left stock pump line, oil inj. block off plate, Msd total loss ignition, time adv plate, gel cel batt, Factory tuneable exhaust with electronic tuner, R&D exhaust manifold and intake,Fuel injection plate with Boysen reeds., Ocean pro flame arrestors (custom milled), PJS head, copper gasket, weisco pistons, trued welded crank, polished plated cyls, block water release blockoff plate, water bypass diverter with thermostat, Removed water box (replaced with copper pipe 1 1/2"), 1 1/8" engine mounts, alum engine plate, titanium drive shaft, Stock rubber drive link, R&D 3" open intake scoop, Solas impeller 17/19 pitch, Removed nozzle wedge, R&D extended ride plate, Custom open port stainless exhaust plate, Sano Pads, Alum bushings, custom air brush bright yellow, Purple flames from rear to front, white center and alum pole polished, race #151 IJSBA
I forgot the custom bottom Dragged it (empty shell) standing on it down the beach about a mile, places nice strait gouges in bottom. This is key to good cornering.

What elese did I forget?

Total cost with Ski, paint and all work completed by me as possible $12,872.00
Ski was $5,400.

The 440sx was basic stock, with 4 bilge pumps, alum pole, quick turn, 0 deg bar, R&D head, water bypass, sano matts, water diverter in hood, skat track impeller set up mainy for slolom and freestyle. color red white and blue #777 IJSBA

I had the 440 in competition down 13' berfore power loss.
The 750 was clocked in at 68mph I did not ever run nitrous in either.

I still have a "wedge" for a 550sx or 440sx or 300sx never used. (plastic mold that fits around ski front and back and converts it into a sitdown) They no longer make them. If you or any one is interested let me know I no longer have a use for it. [email protected]

"Meaningless Ride"

Edited by - wryjoker on December 02 2001 10:00:44 PM

 

[trentw]

I you guys have all of the tricks and go-go parts Sweet! Since we are on the subject of watercraft, I am interested in a stand up and want an opinion to see if it is any good or not. This would be by first stand up!
http://classifieds.excite.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P61+C189+R1757450


Beer does a body good

 

[18scott]

Well, this is just my advise, I would also ask wryjoker because he is also really into standups. First of all, I would buy a standup over a sit down anyday. I guess you could say it is the difference between a high performance one seater snowmobile vs. a 2 up sled for trails. It is much more fun darting around by yourself then taking the whole family out on one ski and having to go slow not to knock them off. The one person standup is just more fun. Now as for the 650sx. It would be a nice ski to start on. I started out on a 1988 Kawasaki JS440 and out grew it in about a week. The 650 will be nice because it will not be the fastest thing on the water, but at the same time, you will have enough power to get yourself upright if you go into a turn to steep. On my 440 if I would lean it too far over, there wasn't enough power to "drive" myself upright. It would just gain some speed but keep leaning over at the same time until I would hit the water. The 650 ski from the picture looks fairly good for its almost 12 years in age. Now as for the inside or "guts" I dunno because there was no pictures or indepth detail. Personally for $850 OBO I would try to haggle a little bit and buy it. You should be easily able to work him down a little, buy it, play with it for a year, and maybe at that time upgrade or atleast you will have a better understanding on what you want out of a ski. There is sooo much that you can do for mods on those Kawasaki skis, you just wouldn't believe it. It is kinda like the 1987-1993 Mustangs. There is just every possible hop-up part imaginable and very easy to get. Last but not least, as with buying anything car, snowmobile, motorcycle, ask a sh*t load of questions about how it was taken care of, how many hours it had, previous owners, etc... I would hate to see you invest the money into this ski if the owner forgot to put the oil in the gas and severely hurt the engine and it trying to get some unknowing person to take it off his hands. Remember, once you sign the title, it is yours!! One more thing. I know it is cold right now, but see if there is any way that you could take the ski to the local river, lake, etc and tie it down to the trailer. Back it in the water still on the trailer and start it up, snap the throttle a few times and see how it responds. Just because it might start up on the stand in the garage, it might not run while on a load. IMPORTANT: If you do decide to take it to the water to put it under a load, make damn sure that you do not suck any rocks, sand debris into the jet intake when snaping the throttle. Try to find a ramp that is a paved far into the water where it is less likely to suck up rocks from the river bed. Ok, well I am done writing my novel. I just really love my Kawasaki standup and incurage anyone to buy one. Even though the Yamaha Super-jet is known for being a better standup I sill prefer my Kawasaki over one anyday. The super-jet is like driving a cabin cruiser where the Kawasaki is like driving a ski boat. Now if you have any further questions, post your reply or email me and I will try my best to help you out. The last piece of advise, GO BUY IT!! Have fun. Scott

Wanted!! Polaris 340 TXL any Polaris 340 or TXL. "[email protected]"

 

[Bman]

Cool. 650SX was my very first and only stand-up. I really miss it. I think it was around '86 - '88. Can't really remember as it's been so long. Sold it back in 93 as I recall. I too prefer the stand-up to a sit-down. Mine was tweaked a little. 44mm upfront. 5 blade stainless skat-t5rack, Hi-flow jet intake. Few other little things. No where near wryjoker's buoy. Nice machine Wry!

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I think.... therefore I sled
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Two '94 Indy XLT SKS

 

[trentw]

Thanks for the useful information on the Kawasaki ski. I have had a few watercrafts like a Polaris hurricane and a Sea Doo XP witch were performance type crafts. (Inside lean) I sold the Sea Doo this fall and bought my first Polaris sled but I still want a summer toy and also want to try something different. I know what you mean about putting the watercraft engine under load I had to do the same thing to my girlfriend’s watercraft to dial it in after rebuilding a carb. (Runs great on the trailer) What is this thing worth?

Beer does a body good

 

[18scott]

Well in all honesty, I believe that it is worth all of the $850 but since he put the OBO "Or Best Offer" next to it, I would try to haggle him down. Now it is up to you to determine what condition it is in. If he was the original owner or maybe the second owner and has all paper work to show each year that it was dealer tuned and at the end of the year, engine was fogged, lubed up, etc.. it is worth the money. Now if the engine bay is all moldy and say he was screwing with the carb settings and leaned it out to the point that he cooked the engine then it isn't worth near the $850. I guess you can say that for $850 or less you are not going to be able to find that much fun with your pants on. If he was asking $1000 firm and it wasn't in 110% mint condition then I would say that it was too much money but it looks to be in good physical shape and if it is mechanically sound and well taken care of, it is well worth what he is asking. This is my $.02. Hope it helps. Scott

Wanted!! Polaris 340 TXL any Polaris 340 or TXL. "[email protected]"

 

[Pooly_31]

well trent, as you are well aware, i'm damn close to being an expert on pwc's, especially stand-ups. now in my past experience, the 650 has been a superb machine to start on. its well worth the $850, hell you might as well buy two of em...you know why. jk, oh, for all you who don't know me...this is a bunch of b.s.

Yee Haw!!!

 

[trentw]

Hell, I will buy four that is a good even number!
Were was there a Polaris Hurricane for sale last year?


Beer does a body good

 

[Pooly_31]

the hurricane i was looking at was in roseau, don't remember the number...actually, when i called on it, the wrong number was posted in the paper...

Yee Haw!!!

 

[wryjoker]

Personaly My best advice to any newbie is buy a js550sx. Best model to learn all the tricks on and with a water bypass, Ignition advance, copper head gasket, handle pole spring, and two extra bilge pumps 500gph. It will RIP faster than even a 750sx stock and for what $60-$80. dollars. This is not the most ideal ski but it has serious balls stock and cheap.
Most ideal stock is the yamaha put a factory pipe on it and watch out with a auto tuner it is awsome!
I would like to get on a polaris 777 this next time though just to see what it has.


If you do not undrstand or want to be sure about kawii mods I would be glad to answer. I can build most of them blindfolded. If I do not have the answer my pals at R&D will.

Oh yes I was reminded to say there are many types of water craft, but only Kawasaki makes a "Jetski".

"Meaningless Ride"

 

[PowderGirl]

I have 00' Superjet w/ just a few mods. 2000 was my first year. Really got into it last year. Went to the lake 3 times a week, mostly to practise running buoys with a few freinds who race the tour. One also does the freestyle. Both of the racers have about $15,000.00 boats! I about dropped dead when I heard you can but that much into them. Wish I had never riden them, I cant afford all those mods because now I know stock sucks!

Sarah L.

 

[flyinfry]

Hey wryjoker, 18scott, Pooly_31 where would I find information about standups for doing routine maintance performance? I have been thinking about getting one also. Time for something different. I used to ride a Kawaski 550 when I was growing up. I always see them going cheep in the paper.