Saw them last night in Allentown Pennsylvania. All I can say is they are funky and don't plan on ice drag racing with one. You can't stud on the outside of the track. A dealer friend of ours was there and we flat out asked him(he is a really honest guy) and said that it almost definetally will not hook up on ice. They aren't tipsy so everyone who asked or looked said. At least one guy got on it and started rocking side to side to test that exact thing. It wasn't tipping. The seat is real comfortable but it seems like it will be hard to relax on. Just like the REV you are always in a ready position waiting to hit the trail you can't just sit back kick out your legs and cruise. Sorry I didn't take any pics the lighting in the rooms was horrible. Only thing I took pics of was the new Bearcat cause that thing is HUGE but they didn't turn out. It has the 660 four stroker and a wide track it is just plain huge. I lifted the rear on a MOuntain Cat 800 and I tell you it was light. I mean like about the same as lifting the rear of the studded Viper. One thing commented on by many people was the way the thumb and hand warmer switches are adjusting them into one of the 3 settings(not including off) will be a chore with gloves on. As my uncle put it it will be both on high or both off on the trail. The tail light is pretty ugly but I wouldn't be surprised if we see an aftermarket replacement one that looks a lot sleaker(sp??). They removed the heat exchangers in the top of the tunnel all it has now is one tunnel protector across the top. We may just may get a chance to ride one in the near future but taht is a secret . A dealer friend of ours will have one or two on display and the ycome with like the coil disconnect and other things to prevent you from running them but he is just maybe kinda looking at getting around that. He also commented onthe REV saying that the way you sit your knees are just a couple inches off the dash and ppl actually hit there knees on it. Rumor has it SkiDoo is gonna put out bibs with knee pads for it . One of our friends did ride an REV and he says it is like nothing else and not a racer but rather a trail runner. Our Dealer buddy said if you really want to go out and lake race get that(he then pointed to a ZR 900). I must say that I never liked any of the paint schemes that Cat is offering but when I saw them they look much better in person. All in all seems like the Firecats will be kick ass trail sleds but not really a weekend lake racer. Sorry again on the pictures.