Well i had a chance to demo a brand new pahzer px for the day because my dad knows the owner of our yamaha dealer well. well i was very skepticle, and let me tell you of any of you bash the pahzer your are very very wrong DONT BASH IT TILL YOU RIDE IT! I aboustly loved the sled. for were i live the sled is perfect. the only complaint i had was topend but it wasnt bad ethier for 80 hp it went great. keep up with a 500 xcsp no problem. the sled is one the best sleds i have jumped. it seems built tough too came up short and it handleded it great. the riding postion is amazing you wold think your on a rev. we rode in ditchs and trails, the sled handles awsome. my buddie races and has a mxzx 440 rev and i was on his ass the whole time. the only bad thing about the sled is that it could use about 20 more hp just for those once and a while days. but its about 99% postive and 1% negitive. if you guys would like pictures of the sled just let me know il walk out to my grauge and take them.