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Well as you can tell by the title, you know my dillemma. I have the 2000 indy triumph 600 triple and am wondering the pro's and con's of studding. Also if i do consider studding how many studs? What pattern? I know that the # of studs depends upon horsepower but i can't find a HP rating for my sled. Too few will cause pull through and too many will also damage the track and rob power. Any opinions? Any suggestions on installation if i should decide to do so?

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Hey Polaris-Man!!!!!
or anyone else that might have some insight. Any ideas on approximate horsepower of my 600 Triumph? Im really wanting to start ordering studs but im unsure of how many i should get, because i dont have any idea on horsepower. Is 96 enough? or should i go with 120 or 144? Also how do i attach the tunnel protectors? with pop rivets? Please help, im comin down with a serious case of the snow fever.

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Hey hey

your HP, i don't know, sorry. But studs, 96 is enough because a neighbor of mine has a 1998 or 1999 Ultra, and he's got 96 and it's enough. I would go with 144 on a machine like that though.

Tunnel Protectors, I'm assuming the Triumph has the heat exchangers on the running boards, if so, u just use pop rivets to install them, if the engine heat exchangers are in the tunnel, no need for tunnel protectors, the heat exchangers take care of that job.



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Your snowmobile should be 90 or better hp I am thinking. My xlt has small carbs and it is closr to 90, I don't know specs on that sled. It can handle the studs.


 

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Well, it's been discussed, we figure close to 100 HP on your sled.

I'd say go for 96 studs, in a V pattern, with them all on the inside of the rails.

Should be 3 or 4 large V's



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Well i was thinking 96 in a v-pattern inside the rails like you suggested and when i went to pick up the studs from the dealer and told the service manager what i planned on doing, he was very serious when he said i should have "AT LEAST" 144 studs. He said that he has had this particular model come back with 96 very large holes in the track. So i guess im gonna go with the dealer and get 144 just to be safe.
 

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Nothing wrong with that, although I don't think you have reason to be concerned, my neighbor up here has 96 in his Ultra and it works quite well.

but, more studs = more traction, no matter how you look at it, and since you are spending the xtra dollars, you are going to have that much more traction.

What kind of studs did you aquire?



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Just got them out of the box, they are woody's gold diggers push through style. Aluminum backers and nyloc nuts. I believe they are 1 inch but not sure....i just bought what the dealer reccommended.

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Same as what I got in my XCR, except I have 96.



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Yep that is was i was told, stud will tear out even if you have the correct amount...an extrem example i heard is that if you try to accelerate (spin track) on train tracks it will tear them out for sure...better to keep a constant speed or coast across pavement or other surfaces like that.

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My XLT has 96, if that helps you out. Of course I haven't ridden it yet, but I hear it grips like glue.


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I would think 144 would be apropriate for you're sled. I have the 600xc and run 96 I could run 144 but I mostly trail ride. The more you install the least amount of kick out you will get going around turns. Wich makes the sled unusual to cornering. Picked and unpicked sleds ride differently.
Yes use caution anyplace snow is thin and surface is hard. You are going to loose some just try not to loose alot.

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If you just run on snow, is it better to have studs or none. I dont want to tear holes in my track if I dont need the studs 99% of the time.

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With 144 studs you should be running at least 6" of carbide on you r skis. If you run any less you will be pushing through the turns too much.
I run 192 stud and 10" carbides on my 800 cat. It handles like its on rails and the traction is so great the skis don't touch the snow till about 60mph !!!!!


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I have hade experince with and without studs. I had A 1994 A/C Pantera 580EFI, I installed studs(~122) the second season. I was unhappy with the results. I ride in Mid to Upper Michigan and with the marginal snow we have had the studs wore out fast. The only time I liked them is when I was lake running. I now own A 1997 SkiDoo Grand Touring SE (triple-triple 700) without studs. I am muck happier without studs. Yes I do not get the hook up I would like out of the hole, but with the 136" track it is enough work turning without the studs and if you can't turn your nothing in the trails. Something you should also think about is a new track. A 1" track would be a great track for that sled. Price wise the track ~$550 and studs(dependind on how many) ~$450. Do you research, talk to people with both. If you do either you should increase the size of your wear bars to match.

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well my 93 xlt had 96 in it, but some pulled through, and i took some out that were gonna fall out anyways,

IT HAD THEM ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE RAILS, IS THAT A BAD THING????
 

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Studs on the outside of the rails aid more in turning traction, studs on the inside give improved straight ahead traction.
Saber Traction has some good info on their Website about recommended numbers of studs and studding patterns. If its balanced you will see a great increase in the handling. I don't like riding un studded sleds.

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