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Hi all (who are here),
I am building an enclosed toboggan for the kids and would like some input on it's construction from anyone who has built one. My dad has built lots, but he goes overboard using Oak sides and UHMW runners, but he puts 5 - 600 lbs of Moose into his, mine is just for the kids.
So far have cut the ends off a plastic barrel, cut it stem to stern and layed it out flat in the sun to loose it's curl.
Used 2 - 2 x 10 spruce radiused at the front and last night screwed the barrel to the wood layed on it's edge.
Dad says that the 2 x 10's will not last, they will crack due to twisting along the trail. I will be re-enforcing the corners to minimize this.
Is there anyone who has bulit one similar, or has a better design, it's not too late to backtrack and start again.
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Here are a few photos of what I have so far.
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looks like that beast should stay together down the trail, ur just pulling kids.....dont need to be goin all that fast, how did u get the barrel to stick on the bottom of those boards??


 

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If you look at the shot of the front, you can see wood screws.
I used 2 inch #10's along the front and down the sides underneath.
I will be putting 2 strips of UHMW (Ultra High Molecular Weight) plastic
about 1 1/2 inches wide, along the bottom under each 2x10 sidewall.
I built seats last night out of 3/4 inch plywood with 2x2 spruce under each
seat as a rib. Had my wife sit on it without the ribs, and they flexed
quite a bit without the extra support, even though she is only 130lbs.
The seats will sit on 2x4 cleats bolted to the side walls, so the kids will not
be sitting too high up.

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Looks like a good set up, I'm sure your kids will love it. It would be cool if you could rig up a long tow rope to it so you could pull em behind the snowmobile out in a field or on a lake too. We used to get a kick out of that when we were kids.



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Well that is the whole idea. I will be welding a solid steel hitch to this toboggan to go behind my 500 XC. I have 3 kids who all love snowmobiling,
hence the toboggan. I have a freind who does upolstery and canvas work,
and I am going to have him sew a cover for this thing with transpatent plastic
windows in it, alot like the canopy on a boat. He is the one I got the idea
from, he has one similar. I just need to build a frame to put the canopy over.
Probably out of plastic electrical piping. This thing will be sweet when it's done. The kids and I are going to have a ball this winter.
I will keep the forum updated with new photos when it's close to done.


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Ahhhhhh, I gotcha. I didn't know if it might me a toboggan to just ride down steep hills. Thats why I was suggested the long rope for behind the sled, if your too close to the snow flap, you get a face full. But thats a great idea about the canopy! Definately get us some pics of the finished product, it will be cool to see.



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Yeah, I knew what you meant. My cousin and I used to pull a
tractor tire inner tube behind his Enticer with a 50' rope, great fun.
I parked my 500 XC next to that Enticer last winter, man, that little yammy looked like one of those Ertl models next to my Polaris.
Guess I was 12 the last time I was on that Yamaha, (am 33 now),
it seemed alot bigger then.

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Here are a couple shots of 2 of my Dads 4 freighter toboggans on our
trip to the Pasquia Hills in nothern Saskatchewan.
That is my 500 and Dads is an '87 500 Panther F/C, that thing
is 10 feet long skis to snowflap, what a monster.

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2 words for sleddin behind a snowmobile: metal saucer. OMG they are fun, u
get a water skiin rope w/ the hande on it, and just sit on the metal saucer w/
a long rope, man, u can get flying around those corners, jsut about end up going
infront of the snowmobile......great fun......


 

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Hey AC Guy,
What kind of metal saucer, do you buy it or just bang out some
sheet metal into a dish shape?

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We used to do the same as acguy when we were kids. Our saucer was store bought. We also used to use plastic (I call em "boat sleds") sleds with the short sides on them, like what you get a walmart. Get out in some powder, hold the ski rope in one hand and stick your other out in the snow like a rudder. You could actually cut just like water skiing....ah the good old days. At 31 I'd end up blowing my back out if I tried it now!



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Your back if your lucky, I'd hate to hit a rock or chunk of ice sitting
on one of those Wallyworld saucer-boggans.........ouch.

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yup, just the ones u buy in the store, and they get a lil beat up out there....
ours had a few holes and stuff in it when we got done...hehe


 

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thas when u use ur breaks...ur feet to stop, it hurts in a regular sled, when
you take a jump and land on the back part, that is harder than hell.....


 

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Originally posted by bigwilly:
It hurts when you hit the back of the sled when they stop and you don't.

Trees don't make the greatest brakes.


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Yeah.....that is in the works.
I will be putting 12" deep vinyl padded seats arross the back
and front so that the kids will face each other, easier to talk and
goof around. The seats will be bolted to the sides, so that the bottom
can go up and down with the terrian.
I was planning padded backrests that will stick up about a foot higher
than the edge of the toboggan, but since it will be stored up side down
on my trailer, the backrests will have to be hinged to fold down.
Will post new photos when I have done some more work to this thing.
Thanks for the suggestions,
K
BTW. Dad says that the angle on the front leading edge is too steep and
will plow snow, so am fixing that before moving on with the seats and canopy.

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yaeh he is probably right about that. Think of getting liek some old well pipe and making a strong metal roll cage? I mean plastic is light and easy but if it rolls will it hold up? It probably will but whatever just an idea.
 
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