Your logic is flawed in many ways. The S2000 engine costs many times more to make and manufacture than any factory V8 that I am aware of. Honda pour it's heart and sould into this engine, and it shows. Fiber reinforced combustion chambers, forged crank rods and pistons, titainium springs and retainers.....the list goes on and on. The F20c is one of the most expensive engines sold today, and for good reason. Even with a 9200 RPM redline the piston speeds of this car are faster than that of F1 engines that redline at 18,000 RPM because of the long stroke. This engine is a gem and is still to this day the leader in specific output in the world. See how much you can buy an LS1 for and see that you could buy a little more than 3 of them for the cost of one F20c, you get what you pay for. To say that making a sports car lighter is just BS, is something that I can only shake my head to. I'll be sure to tell that to camaro and vette drivers at the track after I hand them their ass in a bag.Originally posted by Junior
I believe that domestic products are made with more care, without cutting corners, I don't mean to insult you at all intended, but take your S2000 for example. have you noticed that the domestic sports vehicles use V8's and yours uses a flat 4? I'm sure you have. why do you think this is? you may say it's just as easy to make the power necessary out of a 4-cylinder, and it's lighter, but I find this to be BS. it's much easier to make your 240hp out of a V8, the only reason japanese use 4-cylinders is because they're CHEAPER TO MAKE, for each V-8 block, you can make 2 flat 4's it's simple math, 2x the metal, 2x the machining for the 8.
Again your logic just doesn't hold up. When I talked about bolt on's, I'm talking exhaust, intake, etc etc. You want to talk cams, Forced induction and the like then you are in a whole different ballgame. There are numerous S2000's putting down OVER 500 hp to the wheels with a quality turbo system. For NA options there are Toda Cams, Mugen stroker kits, and much more to build great gains. But again, I don't consider those to be "bolt-ons". Now lets look at WHY common bolt ons give the V8's of the world more power. It is because by and large they are made as cheap as possible, with rough surfaces on the intake and exhaust paths, and ineffecient designs. The S2000 engine is totally hand ported and polished from the factory. Name another car short of the exotics that does that. Remember at the same time I owned this car, I also owned my mildly built LT1 camaro, aka the torque god of chevy V8's. Yeah it was fast, but my S2k would walk away from it like it was standing still. And that's on a straight, in the twistys is where the honda shines.Originally posted by Junior
as far as the ease of creating power. if it's so easy to make this power out of a 4-cylinder, why is it that it's pretty much impossible to find a bolt on mod for your S2K that will add horsepower? because it can't be done! that engine is pulling as much power from the factory as you can get from it. you may gain 1 horse here, 2 there, but anything substantial? no
take a 360V8 of the same horsepower (roughly 240) what can you do to add power? exh manifold, 10 horse atleast, cam 15 horse atleast, intake system, 5 horse, TURBOCHARGER 50 horse?
get the point? we didn't skimp out on the engine, there's lots left to be pulled from it.
Yes, the new Nissan Titan and the yet un-named honda full size truck both use dana axles front and rear.Originally posted by Junior
do you know of any japanese 4wd that uses a solid front axle? the only one I know of is the toyota that is sold in australia, and why does it use SFA? because the australian government said it HAD to have an SFA to be sold in the country.
Originally posted by Junior
I won't hold anything against anyone who chooses to buy a japanese car for the reasons of price, or because domestics don't offer something along those lines, or because they have a good reason. but... I don't relish the thought of people buying Rav-4's, tacoma's, civics, or S2K's when we have liberty's, rangers, cavaliers, and camaro's made practically in our backyard.
You are comparing apples to pineapple's. What full size truck is made currently oversea's? None. Only the tundra exists right now from toyota, and that is a american design and build. The only thing you have to compare is the compacts, and there are legions of toyota fans that will gladly compare apple's to apple's with any american compact. Just wait until later this year when honda and Nissan bring over their Full Sizer's, then we will talk.Originally posted by KHB
[br] I would break Non American trucks in a short amount of time.