i noticed this today and realized this when riding with some freinds but its funny to noticed when kides start do out do their dads. i'm not talking about you beating your dad just because u have a better sled but you are a bit more brave when it comes to aggresive riding. today i reached that mark at age 16. today we were out riding and climbing some hills and i was riding his apex and i was launching off these cornices. i wasn't being stupid i was just getting better and riding more agrressive then ther was this steep hill and i was just destroying it and i was riding hard and i told my dad to take the apex and try it and see if he can beat me but he couldn't. my dad personally told me today that i was a better rider than him. he was proud of me because even though doing these climb and jumps i was smart and didn't do sumthing that i know i couldn't do. so when did u first out do your old man and become the better rider? its gonna happen sooner or later to them they can't hold the title of king sledder forever.