No, you are right, the new fusions are something like 520 lbs dry. My 1991 RXL is 547. I think it is laughable.

 

I got neat mag at home that just published weights. I could't belive the F7 was like 65 lbs lighter then the fusion 600 and had 100 more CC. It was something like that.. don't quote me till I get home

I will post some of them numbers when I get home.

 

i have seen 3 different weights out there for the 98 xcr 440, 472lbs, 477lbs, and 482lbs..I think the better handling comes from the better weight distribution front to rear and the ability to better place the engine for better CG with the smaller motor. As far as the weight for the 700, well i tend to think that sometimes the manufacturers fudge the truth by a few pounds here and there to make it look pretty on paper. By the time you add a full tank of gas, oil, coolant, a rider, accessories almost any sled is well over 500 lbs, so yeah, whatever...Just ride!

 

The thing is I don't trust the accuracy of those numbers.

EDIT: I just weighed my sled and got 466lbs. With a bathroom scale on each point. Ready to go, ~4gallons of fuel onboard.

 

Well your comparing it with a 1998! things change over 8 years! know the 440s are light and better.

 

Originally posted by pROx4foUrT
[br]Well your comparing it with a 1998! things change over 8 years! know the 440s are light and better.

 

Originally posted by ripperd
[br]The thing is I don't trust the accuracy of those numbers.

EDIT: I just weighed my sled and got 466lbs. With a bathroom scale on each point. Ready to go, ~4gallons of fuel onboard.

What's the dry weight on your sled?

 

Dry weight on '04 440s is around 440 I think. My IQ dry listed weight is 444, but I've had it weighed and it's about identical to ripperd's numbers.

An additional thought, the weight race didn't really start until 2002 for Polaris, when they dropped 45 lbs. according to SnowTech Magazine.

 

I think the better handling comes from the suspension. Xtra-10 Race in the rear (fox res. shock and Fox front), CRC up front, tipped in trailing arms, Fox up front... They stopped painting race sleds tunnels because it saved like a pound....

The 600/700 is only a couple pounds heavier, but compared to a triple they save a lot, but then you start replacing steel skiis with plastic, replace exhuast components with lighter stuff, and some other things, you get near the same as the Twins...

I think Ski-Doo made some light Revs compared to other manufacturers.

 

Originally posted by xc racer
[br]Dry weight on '04 440s is around 440 I think. My IQ dry listed weight is 444, but I've had it weighed and it's about identical to ripperd's numbers.

An additional thought, the weight race didn't really start until 2002 for Polaris, when they dropped 45 lbs. according to SnowTech Magazine.

Even the new and improved IQ at 440 lbs vs the old 477, I find this about equal to comparing 40 below zero to 45 below. Can you really tell the difference? With my bodyweight of 150lbs soaking wet, 9 rides of ten I have this nominal weight advantage anyways. It doesnt seem to matter. Whoever has done the most homework and has the biggest nads wins. I think this whole weight comparison thing is moot. End of posting.

 

Dean have you posted pictures of your new Pro-XR yet?

 

Body weight is a large factor in computing the total weight of the sled, but keep in mind the weght the sled carries is generally set where it is. You can throw your body around to compensate for the unbalanced nature of a sled. The new fad of rider forward positioning is also a large player in this. The rider is the heaviest part of a sled, and centralizing that makes the entire ride different. I stand about a foot further forward on my IQ than on my bro's Pro X ('02 600). There's no comparison in the air as to how my IQ flies against my old XC. I'll never ride a 'traditional' sled again. It isn't the weight, it's where my weight is that really affects the handling.

 

Originally posted by erick
[br]Dean have you posted pictures of your new Pro-XR yet?

I posted one : http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=34080

But once I have the sled all set for the way I want it I will post again.
I have a little list of everthing to do:
get windshield from the guy I bought it from
put on a sno-flap strap
find a good fitting tank for the back of the tunnel
grease everything
put on pump gas head and clutch weights.

 

Originally posted by ripperd
[br] I just weighed my sled and got 466lbs. With a bathroom scale on each point. Ready to go, ~4gallons of fuel onboard.

How do you do with that?
Do you add all the weights together, average them out, or what?
I think I could find three scales and try this sometime.

 

Most of the weight savings nowadays comes from lighter chassis parts. The hoods now are cheap and flimsy and I'll bet they weigh half of what they used to. I am still not sold on all these lightweight parts they put on sleds. Skeptical if they still will be around and in one piece in 13 years like my '93 Xlt.

 

Originally posted by Indy400_88
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Originally posted by ripperd
[br] I just weighed my sled and got 466lbs. With a bathroom scale on each point. Ready to go, ~4gallons of fuel onboard.

How do you do with that?
Do you add all the weights together, average them out, or what?
I think I could find three scales and try this sometime.

Yeah you can just add them. I first put a brick under each ski, and under the track to maintain an even height. Then one at a time I swapped out a brick with the scale, then just added them all up. It was 183 at the rear skid, 141 on each ski roughly.