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The water level in a glass of water with an ice cube in it stays the same after the ice cube melts. Simple science. Ice weighs XX% of water, so XX% of the ice cube is below the water line and 100-XX% is above the water line.
 
Sorry guys but I believe there is too much scientific proof to say it isn't happening. I am not going to argue on here about it just giving my opinion[;)]
Watch the movie "An inconvienient truth" it pretty much explain why I think it is happening.
 
An inconvienient truth
No thanks. Al Gore is a left leaning Democratic. He is a "hippie" by nature. The last person I want to listen to talking about climate change is a hippie and a former vice president.

I'll pass.

Sorry guys but I believe there is too much scientific proof to say it isn't happening.
I know you "don't want to argue about it" but tell me:

If Global warming is so "new", than why has there been an ice age every 40,000 - 100,000 years? This evidence of past ice ages has been backed up by ice core samples drilled form Antarctica. When exiting an ice age the temperature of the Earth will get warmer until we start to enter the next ice age.

We are only about 18,000 years from the last ice age...meaning we are still getting warmer. Global warming and cooling is a fact of life...it is going to happen if we are here or not, and if I drive my truck, or I ride my peddle bike to work.
 
Originally posted by sledhead907
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Where were you guys when I was arguing just that point in the other thread!

I got no back-up!
it wasn't just the green house gases, it was supposedly a meteor that impacted the earth causing those gases and other significant events that lead to the Dino's death.

http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Chicxulub/Global_effects.html
 
Short answer: It's impossible to have a definite "yes" or "no" answer to the question "Is global warming really happening?"

Long answer: In truth, it's pretty much impossible to find unbiased scientific studies for either side of the argument. On one hand, yes, polution is terrible for the environment. On the other, even recorded winters have been very up and down, and before people started keeping track of this it is absolutely impossible to accurately know what the weather was like.

My personal opinion: There may be some sort of greenhouse effect going on, but I don't think that is the immediate cause of the mild winters we have seen in the past decade or so. I'm only 19 years old, but I remember the winters of the mid-90's being whoppers compared to what we've seen from 1997 and on. As I see it, it's impossible to think that global warming could have such a sudden and drastic effect on our winters. We're just not getting as much snow right now - that's that. That being said, I think it's stupid for us to continue consuming the earth's natural resources at the rate at which we are and that we should all be more concsious of what is going on around us. If that qualifies me as an environmentalist, hippy, tree-hugger, etc., then so be it. If you can't realize that we all need clean air, clean water, and furtile soil to live, then you are a fool.
 
I thought I heard on Discovery channel that they're shying away from that theory? And more along the lines of climate change.

Please understand here, I am not arguing that the earth is getting warmer. I am just arguing the reason behind it

Bryan
 
Don't kid yourself stupid
Global Warming is a theory that exploded due to nature freaks and their propaganda
only a fool would believe Al Gore's version

I believe they called 1980 a "snowless winter" in MN, then in 1986 the same thing happened
In 1990, the huge halloween snow storm hit...

It's a pattern, k?
 
Originally posted by tonyisnt
[br] That being said, I think it's stupid for us to continue consuming the earth's natural resources at the rate at which we are
You probably don't want to get me started on this subject either. It would require a whole new thread.

And it's less of a pattern as it is a series of peaks and troughs - a sine wave.
Wherever you are in North America, it was at certain times a desert and other times underwater. Many, many times in fact.

Bryan

Bryan
 
Originally posted by ibreakstuff
[br]I was probably drunk at a bar. Or wrenching on something. Maybe a combo of the two?

Bryan
you were drunk and wrenching at the bar?
haha jk
 
I keep waiting for the ice to melt and change the north atlantic current so that great big storm comes and dumps outrageous amounts of snow on North America like in "The Day After Tomorrow". [:D][:D]

P. S. Beware the wolves!!!!

P. P. S. If we have a horrible food shortage or anything we can eat the Sierra Club members, then the PETA people, then (Insert other leftist crackpot goup here), etc
 
i think the northwest is gettin all our snow the jetstreams are all sorts of screwed up.i know they get snow out there alot in the higher elevations but not much in the lower elevation i would assume.im no weatherman my anymeans but thats what i think
 
What the weather channel said is that the main jet-stream is right on the border of the US and Canada. They say that the snow and cold air are north and beyond of the jet-stream. But this weekend might be our chance if any precipitation comes into our area. I think there is a high of like 10 degrees Fahrenheit on Friday so hopefully something will move in.
 
Originally posted by ibreakstuff
[br]You probably don't want to get me started on this subject either. It would require a whole new thread.
Let me guess...
"You're stupid we have enough natural resources to last us x number of lifetimes. Believe me when I say we're not running out any time soon."

With this you would more than likely be correct (except on the me being stupid account :D). But, that's not exactly what I was saying.

Fact: in the last one hundred years the human population on earth has nearly quadrupled.
Fact: in the last fifty years the human population on earth has more than doubled.
And there are no signs of it slowing down. With this ever growing population the speed of consumption is constantly rising. If our way of life isn't altered and our mindsets don't change we are on a fast track to problems. It's not so much that we can't use them up for the earth's sake, but for humanity's. Economic collapse is nearly certain.

You're familiar with the idea of peaks and traughs...that's good. Perhaps you are familar with the concept of "peak oil." Unfortunately, though, you don't seem to be familiar with the usage of the word "theory" in science. Writing things off as "just a theory" is ludicrous. Equally ludicrous would be to (what seems without doubt) claim that this is all just a pattern - a stance that would undoubtedly need to have a basis...a scientific one, at that - but yet also debunk global warming along with 90% of science as "just theories."

Like I said, I basically do feel that this is all just a natural cycle. But that doesn't mean we don't have things to worry about. The modern worldview that we humans and everything we do is invincible is ridiculous. Don't be sucked into it.
 
Originally posted by stormrider62033
[br]just a cycle ,and im sticking to that
Ok, but just how long is that cycle going to take? thats my question. its been like this for 5 years. how much longer? 1 year? 5? 10? 857,583? hope not, but we never know.
 
just came across this on the Minnesota Secretary of State history old stuff page. i do remember this because it was the deciding factor in my buying a brand new polaris trailboss versus a sled.

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1988 Record breaking drought gripped Minnesota.

1996 A new record low temperature for the state was established at 9:10 a.m., February 2 when the mercury bottomed out at -60Âş (F) in the City of Tower, St. Louis County
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kind of a cycle there but the up side is i still have and am riding that 1988 four wheeler.
 
^^ I believe I mentioned that, MN in particular has been in several loops of weather, while there is a weak el nino right now it is slowing down the cold, so it takes longer to hit us.
When it does, winter should be normal again, there will be snow.

When everyone quits like my uncles did in 1980's cause of no snow, they will regret it...for a long time to come.
 
winters go in cycles and i believe that is what we are in right now. if you watch the movie the inconvinent truth that gives us a lot of facts that we don't want to hear. even if global warming is taking place that doesn't mean we shouldn't at least get rain. we are having trouble with precipitation too.
 
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