Has anyone heard of a Phazer 900cc coming in the line up for 2008. I know thats along ways away but the reason people will not buy the 500cc is because of the power. All Yamaha did with the 500cc is put two yz250f motors together. For the 900cc they would just put the yz450f motors together. I dont think they would have to do much to satisfy there customers that want a little more power in that awesome Phazer chassis.
Phazer 900cc in the making for 2008?
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I am hard pressed to see the phazer make 160 trail HP, but it would be neat
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Does anyone know what kind of torque a phazer would run stock and turboed? I mean, if it's getting is power up around 10,000 rpm's anyways, torque isn't a big factor, but if they were to turbo a phazer, and pull 150+ hp out of it, but yet it becomes a dog off the line trying to spin that turbo, well, seem's to me we've defeated the purpose.
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MY dealer said they are getting MCexpress turbos next year and they give the pahzer 150 hp
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the phaser motor is not 2 YZ 250 motors it is 1/2 of an apex engine
the new phaser 900 is going to be another apex motor tuned down
the new phaser 900 is going to be another apex motor tuned down
I know they claim 450 LBS, but the question is are they going to ba off 40-60 LBS like all their other claims?Originally posted by knightrider
[br]its so sad how some people's head's are so bent on 2strokes still, maybe a little 4stroke smoke will clear things up![]
-and my neigbor just bought a 07 phazer fx and the first thing he did was turbo charge it. think of it, 160hp at 450 pounds. it cant get much better then that! i cant wait to drive that when it arives.
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What have you been smoking knightrider??? Do you know anything about the Phazer. That is EXACTLY what the Phazer motor is; 2 YZ 250F motors put together to create the ULTIMATE monster on the "real" trails...
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It says right on Yamaha's website that the Phazer is based off the YZ250F motor!![}
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Depends, Yamaha had 440ss back in the late 80's, Did ski-doo have it then?
As for the turbo and supercharger deal. Turbo, requires the engines exhaust to produce pressure, Which takes in air, Which is forced into the engine. Basically the same as a supercharger. But, A supercharger runs right off the crank shaft. It compresses the air, And then puts it through the engine. Since it is connected to the engine, it takes away from torque. But there is NO lag in power. With turbo, There is slight lag in the powerband.
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You guys might wanna do sum research before blabbin off. trying not to be rude but u are both wrong the phazer is not 1/2 of an apex motor and its not two yzf 250 slapped together. the phazer engine has design charateristics similiar to the yzf engine thats what "based" means.
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That's EXACTLY what I'm trying to explain to these guys, they both have it wrong. Roughrider is right, it is "BASED" off the YZ250F motor. If you think you can take a cylinder off a YZ250F and slap it on a Phazer good luck, cause it ain't gonna happen.
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22 stroke motors have been put togehter succesfully but a stroke is very simplistic compared to a four stroker, and besides even if it was two bike engines it wouldn't work well. look at the 03 RX1. my dad bought one and i rode it, it was the heavest worst handling sled ever, it was every tippy and unstable, high centered, that sled had a engine straight out of a street bike pretty much and i didn't work. once the engine was changed it was ok then when the apex came out it was great not perfect but great becasue these engines now are specifically for sled.
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Do some research before you post. Look at the hp numbers for the bike alot higher and they spin alot faster. Alot of street bike motors rev alot higher than 10500(that's what the sled motors run on avg). The block really hasn't changed in the past couple of years. Weight hasn't been cut down that much(in the motor). The apex moved the motor closer to the rider and caused it to feel a whole lot lighter. Plus the rest of the sled shaved a decent amount of weight off its body.[
] And by the way i wouldn't trade my apex for any other sled on the market.[]
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i'm not tryin to go agianst you but i don't care how much the engine was moved there is still quite a weight difference. my dads 03 rx mtn was weight wet and it was in the 6's and 7's. i wish yamaha wouldn't have hidden the weight of the 03 rx1 becasue then it doesn't show how much weight they actually shaved off since the late rx1's and apexes. that was a bad move on yammies part i think
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I'm all about the turbo on a phazer. I mean, the tourqe that a 4 stroke produces at acceleration is already enough to spin the track in the snow, so who needs "power on tap" when its the high end that limits your top speed anyways. The phaser hits its max hp at what...11,500 RPM's. I mean come on, if you had a turbo on there that thing would be pushin' great boost at an RPM like that. Generally superchargers give you low end power, turbos take time to spool up but when they kick in at higher RPM's you really feel it. I would belive that it's top speed that the phazer is lacking, so that's my reasoning for a turbo. But that's just my two cents, we all have our own opinions.
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Superchargers produce more ponys with less boost.
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