[MicahMan]

Welcome to the modern Police State..

i agree they are modernizing the dnr and the police to basicly scare you and what ever happened to the right to travel freely in this country? here lets trap you and slap you with a ticket. and decible levels are b.s. either way you hear a snowmobile so whats the point, oh another reason for the dnr to make money off your hard earned investments. just like obama and taxing people to death

 

[SnowAttitude]

Prboably have to have a reason for renting out a resort and partying all night long.
I think if I got a "big" ticket for something, I would fight it, even tho I might loose, it might bring it to the attention of the courts??

Another thing you could do is, go to a local paper and have them check it out, do a story, It Might? get some Neg. attention, for having a women pretending she needs help, then busting those who came to help.??

Around here they use planes to track you. Thats got to be pretty spendy.

I know I find myself not stopping to help as much as I use too..

 

[fusionshuk06]

^^^ I agree its just another tax

 

[Ugly_old_Poo_kid]

^^^ I agree its just another tax

Not so....

It's way worse. Because if you get a driving while intoxicated, it effects your auto insurance and credit score.

 

[sdlvx]

Welcome to the modern Police State..

I couldn't agree more. I think the worst part is is that both parties (republicans and democrats) are working to take away our rights, but the republicans voters don't hold republicans responsible and democrat voters don't hold democrats responsible. Both of them are screwing us over and we need new political parties. I wish everyone would stop supporting both of them and at least go libertarian.

Really, they all yell at us for messing up the environment as they blog about it behind a computer powered by coal while snacking on food that was transported from all over the world and not locally grown. Or they spy on us while telling us it's to keep us safe. I'd rather die getting hit by a drunk driver than live in a country where there's police checkpoints.

 

[Hangman]

Here's a link to check out:
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/Org/es/enforcement/safety/snowstats.htm

Half of the deaths so far were alcohol related. (According to the widnr) Were they all actually alcohol related? Who really knows.
It's plain and simple, people need to know their limits when riding. I just choose not to drink at all when riding. IMO, alcohol and sleds do not mix, even one drink. But hey, it's just my opinion.

 

[brian126]

IMO, alcohol and sleds do not mix, even one drink. But hey, it's just my opinion.

I agree completely. It's OK to drink but do it after you're done riding for the day.

 

[88400]

IMO, alcohol and sleds do not mix, even one drink. But hey, it's just my opinion.

I agree completely. It's OK to drink but do it after you're done riding for the day.

Agree 100%. At what point does it turn radical, what happened to people being responsible for their own actions. All the people who get killed drinking and operating any motor vehicle make a clear choice to do it, why should I be inconvenienced or penalized for their bad decisions?

 

[Jerkyking]

Quite a few deaths no doubt... but one of the few things I understand about Wisconsin is that getting ticketed for riding a sled under the influence is that the offence is not tied to the individuals Drivers License. In Michigan and most other states it is.

Loosing your Drivers License for an offense committed while driving a sled, ATV, or boat is a pretty good deterrent against Drinking and Driving.

I do think that this type of "check point" is wrong... to trick you into stopping to help a fellow rider and blow have to blow into a tube because its assumed you have been drinking goes against any reasonable suspicion of the offence.

 

[points]

Honestly, I don't care if I get pulled over, or how they go about it. I got pulled over once by Tower by a dnr guy sitting up in a tree. I dont drink and ride, not one drop before or during. I try and obey speed limits especially around towns and other people and make sure i'm properly registered and have my trail sticker, I stay off private property and in general try to be a smart rider. So I dont really have anything to worry about, the cops are doing their jobs and if I treat them fairly and respect the rules they usually do the same for me. I've met some real nice officers out in the field.
On a side note I was out yesterday in the Hugo, Forest Lake area and I encountered some real morons, guys who were riding on the paved side of the trail with studs, speeding excessively through town, and in general riding recklessly. Later on in the day we ran into them again at an intersection and watched them cross the trail and run 2 sleds off then take off blasting down the main trail. Those are the guys that get trails closed and people hurt or killed I wish the sheriff or dnr had been around then, although i did see them out farther east.

 

[Sleds-650]

I talked with many riders in Norther WI this past waeekend, one group was even stopped twice in the same day by the same two wardens in different locations. That to me would get old and annoying FAST. One guy I spoke with stated the warden told him he was driving too fast across the lake, and it was around 1:00 pm. In WI there are no day time speed limits, therefore how can a Warden say he was driving too fast?

 

[xcr440]

same way you can get a ticket in a car for "too fast for conditions". Was he riding too fast(over 10 mph) past ice shacks, ice fishermen or stopped sledders??

 

[jon24]

thats the DNR for you

 

[picman]

same way you can get a ticket in a car for "too fast for conditions". Was he riding too fast(over 10 mph) past ice shacks, ice fishermen or stopped sledders??

Yeah one of those subjective tickets. You have to be as calm and polite as you can when you get pulled over for these things. You get in their face and you WILL get the ticket. AND lose in court.

Hey, the DNR was just up your way a short time ago doing these sobriety patrols weren't they? They had a write up about in in the DNR weekly news.

I sure am not a fan of the tactic posted in this thread. and I believe that here in WI you have to submit to the "preliminary" breath test.

 

[Sleds-650]

same way you can get a ticket in a car for "too fast for conditions". Was he riding too fast(over 10 mph) past ice shacks, ice fishermen or stopped sledders??

He was going across a lake with No Ice shacks or people within 500 feet of the stick trail...

 

[kingofkings]

Yea, that does seem pretty shitty, What kind of sleds do the DNR have anyway?? I would never think of running for the DNR or cops, but I wonder how fast they are? I have only trail ridden this year and have yet to see the DNR or cops.

Around here, the DNR mostly ride sleds that were either bought cheaply or confiscated, all the one that I have seen here didn't have any lights, they didn't even have a symbol on the side of the sleds but they were as friendly as can be, and quit helpful. I do believe that this kind of tactic is wrong and that if you don't have anything to hade, then one would stop for the DNR anyways. After a while, people will just pass on by even if someone is really in trouble.

 

[sdlvx]

Here's a link to check out:
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/Org/es/enforcement/safety/snowstats.htm

Half of the deaths so far were alcohol related. (According to the widnr) Were they all actually alcohol related? Who really knows.
It's plain and simple, people need to know their limits when riding. I just choose not to drink at all when riding. IMO, alcohol and sleds do not mix, even one drink. But hey, it's just my opinion.

People should understand the risks, but if they are willing to go out and drink and snowmobile while knowing the risks, they should be allowed to do it. The government is in no place to tell people how to live.

Even if you're not drinking, you should know that there are going to be people out there who are drinking. You should also be prepared for them and be accepting of the fact that something should happen. Lets be honest here, we're riding vehicles that weight 400 to 700 pounds and have between 90 and 180hp. It's not a safe thing to do and there's risks involved.

I go snowboarding a lot too, and there's constantly ambulances taking people away and the ski patrol almost always has someone in a toboggan heading towards first aid. Yeah, it's dangerous, but the people who do it accept the risks and they realize they might leave the terrain park with broken vertebrates.

I say let them drink and sled. Things are way different than on a road. They're no where near as congested and there's a lot more breathing room to account for errors. Driving off of a road to miss a drunk is going to cause chaos. Driving off the trail to miss someone is at most going to get you stuck.

Stop justifying a police state by saying it's there to keep us safe. That's a bunch of sh*t.

 

[bumpyknucks]

I say let them drink and sled. Things are way different than on a road. They're no where near as congested and there's a lot more breathing room to account for errors. Driving off of a road to miss a drunk is going to cause chaos. Driving off the trail to miss someone is at most going to get you stuck.

Stop justifying a police state by saying it's there to keep us safe. That's a bunch of sh*t.
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let them drink and sled!? i'm all set with getting hit and killed by some drunk asshole. it's one thing to be an idiot, it's a whole different story when you endanger someone else's life

 

[BAMT700]

I agree with bumpyknucks, I sure as hell don't want some drunk ass on the trail with me. If you go off the trail in MI your more then likely going to hit a tree. My buddy got hit buy a drunk sledder last year, jumped off of his sled and was ok, but did a lot of damage to his sled. The drunk guy was going about 45 around a corner and rode onto his half of the trail and hit him.

Drinking while sledding makes you a DUMB F*CK!

 

[SnowAttitude]

I think we can all agree on this?? I think??

1- Nobody wants a drunk driver on the trail.
2-We have to take care of each other,including making sure everyone obeys the law..... watch your friends.
3- There's people that will make sure that everything we do wrong will be front headlines. (Why have I heard about every sledder that has died in the 5 state area on the TC news?)
4- We want the DNR to do there job, but I believe setting people up is WRONG.
It just makes us not trust them, IMO... Like others have said, we do something wrong, Pull me over..
5- Booze related is Wide open .. just another way to make us all look bad,
it could mean he had a beer can from last year in his sled.(seen it)
6- Many years ago a guy ( about 65 ) headed home after helping a friend, had 2 beers in about 5 hours. had a heart attack, then hit a tree and later died... It was reported he was drinking and hit a tree and was killed.
7- We have to be smart about what where doing out there, it effects us all.